Monkyyys market shitposting thread

I do like them - good call! My kind of mates.

Hey I’m bored too. I’m writing a sci-fi book, or trying to anyway. It’s a futuristic, psychonautical, taoist-and-hermetic-alchemy-action-adventure. It has crypto in it. The cryptocurrency Cheshire, which appears in the book, has a real-world counterpart - I bet you can guess what that is. This will identify me someday. But I thought you would enjoy that. So, Grin is making it’s way into literature, sort of. Literature of the kind that might be written by a guy who might like Tornado Rider.

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Nice, how far along on the book are you, is crypto a part of the plot, or more of an accessory that just sort of is there in the background?

I am 7/12 of the way through the first draft. I have outlined 12 sections, and am writing the seventh section at this time. I have never written anything before, so I did some research online on how to write. Hemingway said, “The first draft of anything is shit.” So that has been my rallying cry. I plan on doing 4 redrafts.
The book is about decentralization in its political, economic and spiritual aspects. My reason for writing the book was to explore these themes in a non-boring manner. I figured a didactic explanation would be a snoozer, so I decided to build this elaborate story around it to make the exploration more interesting. So, crypto is integral. It even plays a plot role. There are two currencies, Galaxy (a more governmental one) and Cheshire (our hero’s favorite!). It’s basically a spiritual, buddy, road-trip tale. Our hero’s buddy has just been rolled out of a moving vehicle after being beaten up by the Illuminati who took the healing helmet device he had made. Knowing he couldn’t use Galaxy as it would be tracked. He sends a street kid to his buddy with some ‘homework’ scrawled on paper. Since it’s an elliptic curve, and the kid’s like eight years old, the hero knows it’s a message from his buddy who’s in trouble. He sends the kid back, paid for his courier services, with an ‘answer’ to the homework problem, which is a Cheshire transaction key really, so his friend can get money and get out of trouble without the government knowing. So, yes, crypto is more than window dressing in the book.
I write every night, 1000 words. I read once that Virgil wrote the Aeneid one line a day for decades. I don’t know if that’s true, but I believe it and think it’s cool. I used to pray every night. But I decided the Bible is fiction, and I decided to write some religious fiction I could actually believe in, myself. So that became my new prayer, to write every night, maybe a new tale for humanity, other than the twisted one, the Bible, which has only brought us to this miserable place and dumped us here. Originally, the book was about consciousness and quantum mechanics after I had some weird virus last year. I spent a few weeks reading Alfred North Whitehead, Bohmian Quantum Mechanics and a bunch of old alchemy manuscripts from the East and the West in a hallucinogenic, febrile state. It all sort of branched out from that. Outlining and sketching characters and places took a few months. Writing so far has been two or three months.
Funny, Grammarly and Google AI says my tone is ‘Sad’ but I don’t feel sad. I feel pretty happy.

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I like the story of your book so far. Keep it up. Writing a whole book seems like such a huge challenge. I like your plan, just hack it out little by little until it’s fuckin’ done. I’m recording an album right now, same plan man. same plan.

Funny how the bitcoin story itself is like a great sci-fi novel. We haven’t seen the end yet because Hal Finny has not been unfrozen and resurrected with ~1X% of the worlds money supply.

Edit: also speaking of religious fiction, if you re arrange Satoshi Nakamoto, you can get I AM SATAN or I AM A SATANIST plus some extra letters. I think revalations mentions the beast coming from the sea, and i think the translation of satoshi nakamoto could include a reference of being of the sea. Revelations itself mentions the beast returning and appearing as a financial savior. etc.

Tl;Dr: So finney comes back in 1000 years and moves the coins in the genesis block just to fuck with everyone, or on accident by trying old passwords. Turns out he was satan (but not like he knew he was, more like in the movie ‘the omen,’ Damien didn’t know what was up really, he was just a kid). Everyone on earth dies. The end.

edit: That book would be cool from Finney’s perspective, and the love story could be about reviving his frozen wife and kids, in a decaying socialist…no… full on robot totalitarian shithole world. and uhh…grin’s in there…somewhere, it saves the day, so grin would be the real protagonist in this hypothetical book. Oooo best part, half the book is already written, because it happened already.

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I’m trying to understand elliptic curve cryptography. I get that it’s like the number of hops around the curve is what gives it randomness, but what i don’t understand what these ‘hops’ translate into bitcoin terms. How does the user who wants to keep his secret, input the number of desired hops around bitcoin’s eliptic curve? I’m trying to learn from youtube, so i’m using terms from the videos, I hope that question makes sense. Thanks.

The things that are added or subtracted in elliptic curve cryptography are points of a given elliptic curve, unlike classic arithmetic where people just add and subtract numbers.
grin uses the same elliptic curve as bitcoin, but some other coins use other elliptic curves.
so for any two points H and G of the elliptic curve, we can define H+G, H-G, or even H+H-G = 2H-G, and so on and so forth, and the resulting thing is also a curve point.
it is believed that for any huge number n that you secretly chose, and you calculate nH = H +…+ H (n times) and give to people the result of that calculation ,which is a curve point, let’s call it A, A=nH, then with the knowledge of H and A, people will be totally unable to guess the number n you used.

n is the secret key and what is described above is the assumption that makes bitcoin and grin secure, even against (non quantum) supercomputers

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What you call hopping is multiplying a secret key with the curve generator G to get a public key. This way you can hop from 0*G to 1*G to 2*G …
Except that private keys are big 256-bit numbers that no-one should be able to guess. They’re normally chosen by hashing some master seed with some additional information called a derivation path. The master seed corresponds to the 12 or 24 word list that you need to write down as a wallet backup. The master seed was randomly picked when you initialized your wallet, using entropy that your computer collects, such as disk latencies, mouse movements, etcetera.

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Thank you very much Kurt and tromp.

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Since bitcoin and grin use the same elliptic curve, would that allow for any sort of interaction/relationship between grin and bitcoin, that a coin with a different elliptic curve wouldn’t be able to do?

I’ve had a lot of coffee today but I thought of the two elliptic curves (grin & bitcoin) stacked on top of eachother in 3d, and there being some medium between, what that medium would be…

Dunno if you guys missed it but grin was featured on an episode of Обзор Криптовалют. I liked this screenshot so I thought i’d share. The hot Russian lady is not CGI, so it’s official, we did it!

We’ve come a long way fam. Congrats. Dev team give yourselves a pat on the back. ONWARD.

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@Grumpy As far as I understand there is no greater compatability if Grin and Bitcoin use the same eliptic math formula. In both Bitcoin and Grin, eliptic curve math is used to sign transactions via public keys that through eliptic math are generated from a privatekey. Eliptic math ensures that you can prove the public key is generated by the privatekey while the privatekey is not dedusable in any way from the public key since the math is irreversible (unless you use the same random number two times). Grin does not store individual transactions, it merges them into a single block. So they both use the same trick to decouple transactions/privatkey from a public key, but they use vastely different ways to store transactions in blocks. Apperently GRIN does not even use public keys, so I gues the signing data of a transaction is just stored in a lumped form in a block. Each time a transaction is made to a new wallet, some information to proof the ownage of the GRIN by that wallet is added to the blockchain, while for existing wallets, changes to their balance are stored. Not sure if explain it correctly but this is how it works to my understanding.

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Bitcoin Halvening in 10 Days and Grin is going to Moon! I’m 10x on 2000 contracts in 10 days on Grin. Don’t be like me just invest, but I believe we’re hitting $3.00 again!

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My expectation is Grin might be > 2 dollar, but less than 3. Lets see.

How do you see this happening? Bitcoin has been bullish for 6 weeks and Grin barely passed 0.50$ mark.

If bitcoin drops hard again, I would suggest Grin sub 0.30$.
It is sad to say all this, but the market is showing Grin true value at the moment.

In the past there’s been a delay where bitcoin goes up a lot first, then alts start to see a rise afterwards. I think it’s because people buy bitcoin first, then start to look if there are any other potentially good projects out there to diversify their crypto portfolio with.

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“They see me typin’, they hating, patrolliin’, doin’ chain analysis and trappin’ me by dustin’ my wallets’”
“Tryin’a to fuckin’ dust my wallets, tryin’a fuckin’ dust my wallets”

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Buy grins now.

There, I said it. If this turns out to be the bottom I expect no less than 10 deep-red hearts for this comment.

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I’m back. Let’s start getting the ball rolling.

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The forum says, “It’s been a while since we’ve seen God.”

Sounds about right.

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Who thinks a big pump for GRIN is due?

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