VOTE on Grin's Mission statement

Both are way too strong I think but I like them both in sentiment.

last meeting:

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Maybe replace “a private” with “untraceable”? Otherwise, “better money” suits the modern ADD mind well.

better money

The more I read this, the more I like it. As simple as it can get, challenging both the fiat money and the cryptocurrencies status quo.

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“Better” is marketing bullshit.

Use words with meaning.

Hmmm… what about changing the ‘e’ to a ‘u’?

Grin. Butter money.

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I can´t believe it´s not Butter Money!

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I agree. Legend in the making.

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Can you elaborate in this so we can understand what is meaningful to you?

And I agree with you. Better is not functional. Especial now. it translates to nothing. What must be captured are the chords that resonate and shake people. That is also marketing. It as an art. And at some point, if you want one of these creations to be successful, we need to have that conversation.

Grin is meant to use. They will not come to us. " If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?"

We will light a blaze that everyone will see and feel far and wide from across the globe.

Grin is the New World currency system in its infancy. It needs to grow up. Dress up. Stand up. And deliver on its promise. Grin will finish what Bitcoin started.

It will die if we don’t get people to use it. Better money is meaningless to them. They have to want Grin. That does not happen without the communication layer you call bullshit marketing.

We are leaving the Moon Lambo Paradigm in the dust. Grin is getting off that ride and into the world where it belongs. It is a game and it has materialized nothing but the data we need to do this right. So we will be grateful to them. And send them a postcard from the real world.

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I can’t believe it’s not cash!

Privacy should be implied.

Privacy is not a product. It is a feature. Nobody cares about privacy. Those drums have been beating since Clue Train Manifesto and VRM. Nobody cared about Beacon–outside of the industry. When they answered portable data with FB connect, that fight died right there. Regular people do not live this way. They don’t understand what they are giving away. We will teach them–but not like this.

This USP needs to be imbued with magical properties. “Better Money” is a start, but we are an order of magnitude away from being able to deliver on that. Their money works just fine. To them. …Which is what matters.

We need empathy here–for the user; for the target demo & psychographic. Yes, Grin is for everyone. But that is not a strategy. We must have one. We have to be smarter than everybody in this space and learn from their mistakes, because nothing is working. It is a game of wealth creation. Blockchain has done nothing for us, but create a 24 hour online casino for speculators. Is that the future for Grin? Unfortunately it’s not even a possibility we can rely on.

If we build for ourselves here, we will get trapped here–where Grin cannot survive. Our economics make it so. But it is not a weakness; it is its strength, and it is a message. We need to distill that and capture it.

We are a whole new paradigm. The Rebel Heart beats mighty in Grin.

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another stab at it:

grin: fairly spread; well spent

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Not Spooner-y enough? It’s not only about you and me, more people need to make sense of it.

Do you have any suggestions?

“well spent” feels redundant, it doesn’t say anything about Grin per se.

Purpose and intent. Good.

I would definitely like to rip into our branding schema to see what the organizational principle looks like. Where does this go? I am very looking forward to losing my mind in all of this.

For example: This is a high level aphorism. And perhaps what would follow is the detail (the story behind that). Which is our most powerful asset. It’s not the technology. It’s the message and the revolution within.

Our brand handle has to make people feel. It cannot be a jingle. It must be a battlecry. For what other reason do we exist if not to bring total revolution. Grin is going to reshape the world. Communicate that to me. Make me feel like I am a part of something. We are a tribe. Not a payment system. I sign up for Venmo. I join Grin.

Money is the root of all stupid. But once you understand its significance, there is not a more noble cause than to attempt to liberate it. Very glad to have joined the fight. With the only suitable contender. That is Grin.

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It says “spent.” That is the intent. This cannot be a brand handle, but it is solid. It can be used.

When was the last time anybody spent crypto? It is a behavior that has been replaced by the hodl. You hodl crypto. And you go nowhere.

You use Grin. It is a very novel concept. As you can see they are scratching their heads in confusion. They still want to buy it. We have to make them want to use it.

While I also enjoy the idea of enabling Grin to be used as a medium of exchange, I’d like to mention a couple of things:

  1. MimbleWimble does not seem to scale much more than Bitcoin when it comes to transaction throughput. So assuming a future where Grin takes over Bitcoin and a bunch of traditional payment services, it can only do it via a secondary layer (at least with what we know today).
  2. Grin’s monetary policy is deflationary in the long run - so again assuming a very bright future, Grin at the first layer is going to be used as store of value eventually.
  3. There has been discussion about enabling some sort of demurrage to disincentivize hoarding but hasn’t gone anywhere. It sounds very interesting nevertheless.
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Indeed not spoonery enough;

the mission statement of grin should be “go read lysander spooner”

Any argument of the contrary has not read and meditated on enough of the works of our lord and savoir. amen.