Meeting Notes transcribed all Year 2024 ( I divided sections and summarized/extracted and pointed out development topics for new onboarding contributers.)
Updated by Grin Community Counsil TO DO list and FOLLOW UPS.The results of decisions, choices, and state of the work completed at the time of the meeting are mostly reflected in this repository.
Approved Funded Requests tracking. I tracked regularly that the funded tasks are being carried out and it is kept up-to-date.
Published biweekly ,shared via Grin channels (reddit,twitter,Telegram,forum)
Contributing to Grincc/Hub and other documentation repository
Engaging Grin ecosystem, such as applying exchanges.
My requestTL;DR
Term 2025 .This is a funding request for a full year period
Rate monthly /ā¬1050.
My goal is to lay the groundwork for smoother decentralized decision-making and empower everyone to contribute even more. I believe that greater transparency and accountability will be crucial to ć success.
With these tasks, the Grin Community will reach more potential contributers who donāt have the time or resources to stay informed on the latest Grin development.
Iām dedicated to making Grin more accessible, more transparent and i am open to taking on additional responsibilities as needed.
So far we couldnt manage but i will again press on that subject specifically. I believe everyone in our community can be part of building Grinās future.
Any member can propose bounty ideas , how to make grin better and, next step is to get approval from CC members.
Iāll be your dedicated voice, bringing your ideas and concerns directly to the CC or OC. I will be transparent and pass community requests to the members and bring you the outcome of it. Think of me as your direct line
I support this request.
However, I do want to remind you that as groundkeeper and CC representative you have an example role to others in this community. With greater power comes greater responsibility.
Stay posive, polite and constructive.
Facilitate and greeze the wheels of the governance machinary, keep continuity, but do not try to force things or they might break.
Appart from that, cary on like you have done so farš.
Is there an ongoing and active/funded Mwixnet task, or is it complete?
I fear that Mwixnet is close, but like so many improvements in the past, it could stall before it crosses the finish line. Also, is there no funded payjoin task? My understanding was that the community thought this was the most urgent thing.
No difference, it was divided because there was a pause after phase 2. They are both the same.
There is no funded tasks for Mwixnet, it is completed but still at *testing* phase by community. It is supposed to integrate in GUI wallet but after GRIM wallet released, there is discussion/debate about getting integrate it to Grim.
Well, i hope not.
No funded task for payjoin, it is a topic for focus. So we should be open to funding for development.
Like with everything grin, we just need capable and willing developers to work on it, the funding is there. And afterwards we need capable community members to test new features. We still need more testing for MWixnet and testing transaction contracts.
I understand that meetings are usually not skipped entirely, but theyāre often extremely uneventful. Like just saying āreminding everyone to help test thisā.
Having too many uneventful meetings can also be a cause for lack of participation. People start to think that itās not very important.
So I think itās at least worth considering doing 2 meetings a month or even 1 meeting a month just to lighten the workload a bit and try something different.
I thought it was weekly lol. Iām there at that time every week anyway
Anyway, just some feedback; take it as you will. Even at the current cadence, there often isnāt much to discuss. Donāt want to add more work for you needlessly.
@trab Well you are right that the workload regarding note-keeping and other administration is not much right now. Quite hard to predict though, it could change any time. For example when some in the community initiate āanother dramaā like has been done so often, the governance and admin load soars.
Quite sad though that we cannot even to manage biweekly meetings, even if just to share some thoughts informally.
We can and we do. If people donāt show up, it simply means they have nothing to add to the discussion and nothing new to report. This should be expected if the agenda is mundane.
Just so everyone in and outside the CC is aware, CC meetings are biweekly on Keybase and they are as useful as we make them.
Meaning the more people are there, the more people make suggestions for agenda topics, the more useful they are. Otherwise they indeed become rather fruitless. In case everyone finds biweekly meetings to frequent, we could also move to 1 meeting a month, but frankly I do not think the frequency matter much until we get more CC members to commit to these meetings, even if just for informal discussion.
This is uncomfortable for me because ongoing funding requests become like a form of employment and we end up dealing with someoneās livelihood here. I like everyone here and I certainly donāt like suggesting decisions that would affect their livelihood.
But I cannot agree that this community needs this level of groundskeeping.
If I try to think of something that I could support, as a compromise, that might be like 3 āsessionsā per year in January, April, and September each consisting of maybe 3 meetings. So 3 weeks of meetings in January, 3 in April, 3 in September. The idea being that each session of 3 meetings would produce one set of settled decisions.
And fund that at 3k euros/dollars per year in one lump sum.
This sort of administrative overhead is part of the reason I still honestly support just returning the community funds back to the original fund. It would be simpler to run it that way while the community is basically in hibernation mode.
I would like to ask CC members to be generous on spending the funds. Donāt be greedy, donāt treat the funds like your own money, those are intended to community members contributing to Grin project.
You are holding a huge amount of money and thereās risk of burying the funds instead of spending them, or even loose access to the keys, which is happening right now.