How can we keep grin in the peripheral for free publicity?

What are some tactics we could use to get free secondary publicity for grin? My general idea is highlight the similarity of the shared mimblewimble protocol to take advantage of SEO rankings.

Comparison articles, YouTube videos, & tic toks about Grin vs Tari. Not just general comparison, break it down and splay it out so there’s more content from multiple individuals.

Grin vs Tari mining profitability, grin vs Tari mining Set up ease of use for X Y Z hardware. Grin vs Tari price prediction, tari how to videos that make a lot of references to the minimalist version called grin.

Also a tip for persuasion: I find it’s much more persuasive to let people discover things themselves. Feeding them the discovery makes ppl defensive. Leading them to the discovery lets them get to take credit and be the hero. If you just tell them flat out what they’re missing it sometimes triggers a defense mechanism, they unconsciously play devils advocate and try to discredit your proposal as a defense mechanism, because they get a little embarrassed that they didn’t think of it.

example: your buddy is venting about being stuck in debt and he’s doing everything he can and can’t make any progress getting out. Meanwhile you already know his wife is the root of the financial issues. If you want him to really tackle the issue you don’t jump in with “Have you talked to your wife about her Amazon Shopping addiction?” Instead you lead him to where he can take credit for finding the solution himself -instead you change the subject and ask him “oh hey before I forget, do you have any extra cardboard boxes or bubble wrap i can have? I am cleaning out the clutter in my house and I have some items listed on eBay and I want to save on shipping costs, even trash boxes, I don’t care if I need to pull them out of your recycling bin, it’s money in my pocket”

Then you’ll see the wheels spinning as he tells you they you’re in luck, the recycle bin won’t even close because there is so much cardboard in it! Then there may be a delay but sometimes They’ll tell you all about the grand solution they discovered recently…

Sometimes indirect persuasion is the only way to persuade people. It’s especially true when ego is on the line. So if someone enthusiastically mentions Tari, or epic, try to avoid attacking the projects, their ego might be linked to the moment of discovery! Instead softly lead them to a place where they can find an even better discovery! $grin!

This example is good for active p2p persuasion on messaging boards, x, instagram comments etc but we can also set up passive indirect persuasion with cleverly associated articles, videos, blog posts, even merch sales!

If you vibe with this topic what other ways can we put grin as close to center of the periphery when eyes are on other mimblewimble projects?

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Your strategy was successful, and the discussion sparked my interest in Tari

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:joy::joy::joy::joy: “Delta tango bravo alpha Charlie, I’m ready for extraction copy.”

Why free? Grin has 6 million dollars of donation, for 6000$ a day they could promote my grin YouTube videos to 5 million people a day but we already know that’s not gonna happen.

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i’m not sure if you’re aware of this but the donor communicated with one of the devs at the time of the donation. They stated the donation was out of love for grin, that they didn’t care about economics, and that they wanted the funds used for grin protocol development only. If you weren’t aware of that then maybe now it might change your outlook on the subject.

So that means they don’t spend it? They’ve got two offers for multi-wallet mobile adoption and refuses them both. One from unstoppable wallets and one from stack wallets. Maybe now that your aware they are hording the donations for themselves it will change you opinion. Publicity = developers = development!

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Let’s do some math, if they hired a developer for grin and payed them 100,000 dollars a year it would take them 60 YEARS to spend 6 million dollars on development lol

Yet do you see them posting to hire developers on indeed? Didn’t think so dude. Wake up they want grin to die so they can justify taking the money for themselves! It’s hella obvious bro open your eyes.

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I don’t think 3rd party wallet integration is grin development, but I think the idea has merit and could be considered grin development. One other concern is if that integration gets funded, then it sets a precedent that could discourage 3rd party development of open source 3rd party grin focused wallet development.

SIXTY f34king years bro!!!

They could have payed @Yeastplume 100k a year for 60 years yet they lost him. Probably cuz they didn’t wanna pay him shit! FOR SHAME!

One interesting idea that comes to mind is bounties for X Y Z developments that increase every so many weeks until someone takes the bounty.

Edit: this might be gameable, not sure

They not spending nothing bro wake up.

maybe it’s time to really start hitting those two books up you got! :joy: submit a bounty for payment proofs, and then vibe code the shit out of it!

Why they won’t pay anyways.

At this point the grin project would be better off if the GC just took the money and f34ked off all together, at least then the struggle would be real.

Sorry, I meant to say put in a funding request, the funding request has to be approved first, if the product is delivered as it is outlined in the funding request then I’m certain that they will pay.

Could have payed @Yeastplume 200k a year for 30 f34king years bro, yet it took me a random shitty as vibe coder to fix the grin coins node sync issues. The GC are the scum of the earth if you ask me.

But that’s a great story! I love the fact that you fixed that bug. Plus if that gets merged you can put it on a resume that you’re a developer with a proven track record of accomplishment. Proof of merit like that is priceless! Devs don’t sleep on grin! There is opportunity here :slight_smile:

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Ya but your forgetting man, my pr will never be merged because they refuse to pay a developer to review it. Without an extremely skilled rust developer to review pr’s they won’t have confidence to merge and therefore nothing will get fixed. The GC are literally doing everything they can to destroy this this project man. Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.. 6 million USA dollars is too much for them to not want it for themselves

Bitcoin didn’t pay for development. They had badass volunteers. Our badass volunteers are not here yet, but at least in the mean time we know grin is pretty good as is.

Everyone involved in the release and first 2 years wanted to help make grin a no BS project, a consensus about that was met before launch and way before the donation.

So if these folks are willing to crater the project to run off with 6 milly vanilli dollars, why didn’t they just make another BS money grab shit coin in the first place? My point is that considering Their behavior historically, the ethics, the promise they’ve kept for a stranger for 6 years :person_shrugging:eeee I’ll say this - it’s an entertaining conspiracy theory backed by 0 evidence, there’s no leverage to it. More grin devs will come with time. Until then keep up the good work on the videos!

You’re asking for volunteers with 6 million dollars in your pocket. You must see how that will only make developers flee this project.

Ok thanks for all that moving on. Do you have anything constructive to say that’s on topic for the thread?