Request for funding @paouky

@Paouky I support your request for funding. Your responses so far on the forum and on keybase are very clearly formulated and you have been around for some time. For this reason I think it is worth a shot to let you bring more clarity in the documentation regardless of your background

First of all I think having a non technocratic/core member to help with communication and documentation is a good idea. It takes a normal person to understand a normal person. The core is so much ‘immersed’ in the project that an outsider better understand the struggles of getting acquainted with everything Grin.

Secondly I like that you ask for a modest ammount. I do not think all require the 10k/month funding the core members get.

Thirdly, if we do not like your work, the funding can simply be discontinued without any significant loss of funds since your request is modest. Be warned though, if you promise full time work, that is the output we expect.

Regarding @Pirat feedback, he has a point. Maybe start with making a very simple step by step tutorial on how to install the Grin node and wallet and the commands to use them. I just tried for 10 minutes but got irritated with not seeing a clear tutorial on how to install and run the grin core wallet. This should not be the case. Anything that appears to you as illogical or difficult, provide it as feedback to the core so they can make using Grin a smoother experience for old and new users.

As @quentinlesceller suggested, better list the objectives. You can use the funding request template as guideline:


Regarding the second part @quentinlesceller, here are several examples of things I wouldn’t wouldn’t go into: intricacies of replay/play attacks and solutions, subtle cryptographic-documentation, dev API doc etc. Basically, I’ll go as deep as a very advanced learner-user would venture, but not as far as to the detailed technical implementations. Let me know if I should provide specific example references from our current docs.

As for the first part, my inspiration initially was
That website is far from perfect: It has bad aesthetics, it assumes no prior knowledge of crypto (which isn’t necessary for grin), it’s incomplete. But the concept is great. I’d like to build something in line with that spirit, a kind of a default ‘beginner landing page’.

Here’s a quick jekyll mock-up to illustrate:

Even though I love the idea of a non-intimidating (separate) resource to learn from, it might be better to have EVERYTHING in the official docs, I’m not sure yet. But either way I could just add whatever I write to both the docs and the website as it’s all simple markdown.

Also thank you @Anynomous for your great comment.
I agree that if for w/e reason my work doesn’t satisfy, the power is in your hands.
Regarding the grin node and wallet and how to use them, It’s actually already work-in-progress. I had the same struggle initially.


This is an outstanding idea. You get all 0 of my votes.

If all goes well, I highly recommend applying again to document our protocol. I could help point you to the areas it’s most needed. I sincerely believe that if we had solid documentation, our exchange issues would go away.

Btw, a solid technical writer is easily worth 3-4x what you’re asking, so kudos for the modest request.


You seem like a good writer. You proposal was well written. I don’t have money to give you, but I appreciate your enthusiasm and I wish you luck.


This request was approved in the latest governance meeting, with the adjustment of payments being done on a monthly basis:

Payment for the first month has gone out, spending logs have been updated.


In addition we did some small collection of old GRIN documents here:


Nice! did not know of this, adding to the newsletter that is just going out. :slight_smile:

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opening Pull requests or adding documents are welcome. :smiley:
We wanted to make a public repository for long term storage.

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Gratz Paouky. Looking forward to your work