Looks interesting:
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âElectronic transactions for all.â 
. Very interesting though, thanks for sharing!
there was, probably there is now and there will be Epstein infiltrators who poses, stifling Grinâs development.
It looks like epstein motivation, would ââEnsure Grin development progresses slowly enough that it never threatens Bitcoin, if it gets big, too decentralized, it would be out of controlââ
So decentralization is KEY to such attacks, humans are the biggest BUG of blockchain security.
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Haha original core team just got busted hahaha. I guess now we know who started grin, and we know who the mystery big donor was lol
Looks like grin is intentionally held back, specifically to not outshine btc. Grin dev ops have always been btc maxis, now we know why.
This explains why grin team refuse to pay for listings on exchanges, itâs their policy â now we know why.
They scared of Grinâs potential, scared of decentralization, scared to lose their grip of the coin, letâs make their fears a reality. #mygrin
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This logic does not compute 
. If you have initial investors (Layer One company) who target profitability, they want to earn their money back, which means they want to have listings and FOMO. Grin is the antithesis of most coins by having no ICO, no pre-mine, no BS [NO LIST].
Again, the logic does not compute 
. If there would be initial investors who want to make Grin successful as an investment (not the same as succeeding as true digital cash), they would push for it to become big so they earn big.
Just having some fun with the whole Epstein angle. Would this mean there are initial mined âEpstein coinsâ that are now locked forever because of his death, just like the Satoshi coins 
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How do you figure that? Did you actually read any of it bro? It looks like Jeremy Rubin was trying to get Epstein to invest in a separate business venture built around Grin. It has nothing to do with founding or donating to Grin.
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It says more than that bro. Whoâs Layer One? So grin was built by developers who were hired by Layer One, with funding backed by Jeffery Epstein and other investors? Are you missing the fact that this email is discussing grin before it even existed?! Dude think about the context.
Ai: âJeremy Rubin is discussing whether to invest in Layer One, a company that was being set up to hire engineers and fund early Grin development (plus mining and other monetization).â
I wonder how many layer one employees lurk amongst us today? Gatekeeping this project.
Will all the Layer One employees being funded by pedos please raise your hand!
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I guess the slow development is also a strength with the time-based monetary policy of grin, no other coins will dare to replicate the same technique.
Look at Beam, the development was fast, in fact the price was up and down faster.
From my memory, Layer1 changed course, it was originally aimed at accumulating and supporting Grinâs development (that never happened), & pivoted to focus on bitcoin mining only.
Originally established as an activist fund aimed at building an ecosystem around privacy coin, Grin, the firm is now building out a bitcoin mining operation and claims to be the first bitcoin mining company in the U.S. âat scale,â said Layer1 co-founder Alexander Liegl.
Grins existence is proof that it did happen, OC is probably all hired by Layer One. Which is why most original devs are gone, like you said, Layer One switched focus to bitcoin. (After they built grin)
So youâre giving credit to Layer1 for developing Grin, who for all we know never donated to Grinâs foundation whatsoever (donations were from super early bitcoin address), and also no records that Layer1 ever even mined any Grin. Grin started with huge hype/hope, was trading $100+/Grin at launch.
How I remember it, and how the internet remembers it, unless you can show otherwise: Layer1 saw big potential in Grin, but soon after decided not to invest in Grinâs development & mining and took the safest route: bitcoin mining. Layer1 probably realized the exchange support wasnât happening due to the active Tx requirement (peer to peer) and falling Grin price.
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Donât get me wrong neo-geo, your argument is fair and itâs possible, but the thing is, the email in the original op is dated about a year before grin launched. So it seems awfully convenient that their plan was to hire â5-8 top tier developers to work on core protocolâ, and that basically exactly what happened over the next year, I assume a group of people developed and launched grin core protocol, guessing about 5-8 people? Lol how many in the OC again?
I could be totally wrong but a million dollar company/fund with investors⌠I donât really know if they can just switch like that. Only after the initial investment promises were fulfilled, then sure they can switch to different focus, but even in your link it says itâs an activist fund established specifically for grin, then seems like a year later they changed focusâŚ. I wonder what they did for a year?
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Oh I see, I missed the timestamp being 2018 on that email. Then that was mighty benevolent of Layer1, if they invested into grinâs development without sticking around long enough to accumulate any grin. Seriously doubt they scaled up gpus before an asic could be developed.
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Price went down somehow, early investors need to be paid. Just because they switched focus to btc mining doesnât mean they canât afford a handful of devs and miners on the side and Iâm always wondering why grin hashrate is so high with such little community interest⌠Itâs kinda smart to run a fund and pay devs etc, out of your fund, that way there is no direct connection between the fund and the project, as long as the employees donât spill the beans, but thatâs why they have NDAâs
The first commit in the Grin repo was two years before the email.
Grin was actually six months from launch at the time of the email. At this stage, Iâm struggling to figure out whether youâre genuinely confused or just a time waster.
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Bitcoin was hijacked decade ago, Grin appeared just in time as attempt to escape from this cabal:
Jeffrey Epstein admits he spoke with Satoshi, paid the salaries of roughly 60% of Bitcoinâs core developers, was a lead investor in Blockstream (responsible for the majority of major protocol changes, the centralized Lightning Network, and significant network influence), and was the #1 largest single investor in Coinbase.
Epstein was also close friends with Brock Pierce, founder of Tether, the largest fraud in the world, and key player in manipulating price of Bitcoin. Pierce was also "coincidentally" accused of sexual abuse in 2000 and then arrested in Spain in 2002 for child sexual abuse. The emails reveal they had long discussions (& presumably other stuff) at Epsteinâs Manhattan townhouse, where Pierce urged Epstein to fund Tether and they even discussed the buyout of Mt. Gox, which later spectacularly rug-pulled and collapsed.
Epstein also had talks with Blockstream executives, where they described Ripple and Stellar as âbad for the ecosystem we are building,â effectively working to freeze them out of shared funding circles. This coincides with the timing of the beginning of the Bitcoin maximalist campaign that spread widespread misinformation about both projects.
It was also revealed that Epstein was close friends with Larry Summers (Obama/Clinton ally), who helped create Digital Currency Group (DCG), which owns Foundry USA (#1 largest Bitcoin mining pool in the world), Grayscale/GBTC (one of the largest Bitcoin ETFs), Genesis (which collapsed amid fraud allegations), and CoinDesk (#1 largest Bitcoin media site).
No one is forcing you to read and reply to my opinions bro. You can have your opinion and I can have mine. Youâre wasting my time equally.
You say grin coin was 6 months away from launch when the email was sent⌠or was it launched in 6 months because 5-8 devs helped?
I think after deeper analysis whats grin about these people decided to make grin unknown, delisted from major exchanges and even attacked (51% at pow level and with such articles GitHub - bogatyy/grin-linkability: Grin transaction data corresponding to research on transaction linkability ). US is not major player alone anyway. Now they could say Epstein was Russian agent and USSR invented Bitcoin to destroy US economyâŚ
