Prologue: CC has been a hot topic lately, from roles & engagement to spending guidelines and transparency. Some of the community are mad/ frustrated and think spending should be paused and/ or new members added. While others are happy to keep things as is with minor changes.
This topic is to address whether any current CC members wish to step down because they cannot participate in the councils activities for a prolonged time( or for whatever undisclosed reason).
CC is a volunteer role, so we can’t realistically expect all members to stay constantly active and engaged for years on end, thus it should be expected that members come and go over the years( life constantly changes). However, if a member is going to take a break for a couple of months, but is still contactable to carry out basic obligations like signing txs, then we don’t necessarily want them to leave either. At the end of day, the CC is a trusted role within a small community, so finding new members is not a trivial task.
Obligations of Grin Community Council members:
“Grin Community Councilm members are primarily representatives of the community and are keyholders of the communit funds. They are expected to responsibly manage the keys of the community fund wallets and manage Funding Requests and Bounties in accordance with the spending guidelines. Although preferred, being an active community member is not a requirement. If a council member cannot participate in the councils activities for a prolonged time, he or she is requested to consider stepping down if more suitable representatives are available. Decision making on funding request as well as defining, checking and reviewing deliverables is a community effort.”
Before we even get into the topic of adding new CC members. Let’s see if any current members would like to step down:
If current members could please engage this post in some way to show they still want to maintain their CC role.
I am willing to stay on as a CC member. I do recognize we need some change. In the last month as well as a few times before I spend more time than I wished to spend on Grin governance. I do not mind these tasks but in moderation and as part of a shared effort.
I would love for something like subteams to materialize. I do not think this should be ‘pushed’ by CC members. If people want to work on some tasks either as individual or as part of a team, e.g. Twitter promotion, updating GitHub, Grin art, accounting, formulating bounties, reviewing, organizing events and meetups or anything else they wish to contribute, they are always welcome to do so and they can always ask for support from the CC. The innitiave should however always come from within the community, or it will fall appart like some of the previous attempts I made at creating subteams as CC member.
I do believe working in small groups works well because it is motivating and fun to talk and work on a shared passion like Grin. I think those who contribute to Grin mostly already do this by chatting in direct messages or as group on KeyBase Telegram or other channels. Meetings being motivational also holds true for the CC. An occasional face to face or video call can be motivating and make being part of the Community Council “subteam” more fun and more effective.
I hereby announce that I’m stepping down as a Community Council member.
Unfortunately both my business and private life have left no time for me to participate in the grin community. Neither adequately, nor even at all. I haven’t been able to attend the council’s meetings, and lately haven’t even kept up with the group chat or what’s happening on the forums. The final straw for me was when that resulted in me not signing a transaction which meant an unnecessary delay.
I’m very sorry that I’ve let my participation lapse over such a long time. I should’ve stepped down much earlier and made room for another member of the community.
So, I’m out now. It was a great ride, I’ve met many interesting people and learned a lot. But now it’s time to give somebody new the opportunity and place to do their thing. Thanks for everything guys, I’ll watch Grin from the sidelines (at least for now!)
Things got a bit messy last time the CC held a vote like this, so this time there should be a cut off date when all applications must be submitted by. We could time the cut off date to align with a Grin Newsletter, so all Candidates would get mentioned at the same time in the Newsletter. Votes could then be counted some days later. All dates would be defined and fixed upon creating the announcement post on this forum.
I like a mix of election and appointment, but I think the process should be the same for all CC members. We should really decide on a CC appointment process and be consistent.
What about this: CC selects a group of candidates based on account age/reputation/etc, and community elects one of those candidates? I think this gives community strong representation, while allowing the CC to vet any potential new members.
 I don’t have access to keybase, so I cant check the conversation history to see if this idea was already discussed.
Same idea, if we move to Telegram, we could get more new comers as many crypto guys like to stay active in Telegram.
When people see our Telegram channels are active, they have more ‘trust’ on Grin project.
Telegram is not private enough IMO. It directly links to your phone number.
E.g., me using a pseudonym, not possible on Telegram unless I would put in a lot of effort, get a burner phone number, only use that account on separate hardware etc.
Keybase works fine and has less spam.
I didn’t mean to start a debate about chat clients. I’m not suggesting you change, I only meant to say I can’t access keybase so I haven’t seen the referenced messages. Telegram is also a problem for privacy reasons.
Never understood why Matrix, XMPP, or IRC weren’t considered. Those protocols are open and widely adopted, with many clients on many platforms. Keybase is the opposite of that.
I self host all my stuff so I’ll set everything up for Matrix in the next month or two after a little reading up and get it going. I’m disabled so I have lots of time to get stuff like this done without killing my free time.