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@arct Just throwing this out there… Maybe you’d be interested in exploring this idea that the creator of Reticulum had. He describes combining ideas from Grin and Scrit.

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I’ll share here what the creator of Reticulum said. Good to have it for posterity here I think: Grin is insanely interesting. When I read your post I was like, oh let me just check this thing out quickly and reply on the discussion, and then went straight down the rabbit hole of their docs. While I still don’t have a complete grasp on the elliptic curve math they use (especially for “collapsing” the transactions into combined kernels), I can definitely say that the system as a whole is complet…

specifically this part:

@trab

it would definitely be possible to run the whole Grin transaction building process over Reticulum, even in a very elegant and native way, since the slatepack “sender” and “receivers” can be natively represented as Destinations on a reticulum network (both are really just Curve25519 points). But then it also hit me that we could actually build a very neat transaction+finality system directly on top of Reticulum, by using a combination of concepts from Scrit and Grin, and a few concepts. You could actually do this entirely without a blockchain per-se, having the entire network state represented only as a database of unspent outputs. Such a thing would be very efficient and easy to sync

The reason I mention this is because if your ideas are only slightly different from Grin, it’ll be a hard sell. But something like this would be different enough that it might not even compete, if you know what I mean.