# \[WITHDRAWN\] Development Proposal: Grin Cryptocurrency Wallet for iOS **URL:** \ **Category:** Development and Technical Discussion\ **Created:** [April 10, 2026, 12:37pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/withdrawn-development-proposal-grin-cryptocurrency-wallet-for-ios/12467 "2026-04-10T12:37:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![syntaxjak](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.grin.mw/syntaxjak/32/6733_2.png) [@syntaxjak](https://forum.grin.mw/u/syntaxjak)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2026, 11:42am UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/withdrawn-development-proposal-grin-cryptocurrency-wallet-for-ios/12467/41 "2026-04-14T11:42:28Z")
@bruges I see, so I do the work, and then I may or may not be compensated based on the councils feelings? That’s cool man they won’t pay, They only fund themselves internally or have you not noticed. Imagine if I repaired someone toilet and had to request a possible donation for payment haha lala-land. ---
**Author:** ![syntaxjak](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.grin.mw/syntaxjak/32/6733_2.png) [@syntaxjak](https://forum.grin.mw/u/syntaxjak)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2026, 11:50am UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/withdrawn-development-proposal-grin-cryptocurrency-wallet-for-ios/12467/42 "2026-04-14T11:50:47Z")
> [@bruges](#): > > Once it’s ready, publish it on the App Store and Play Store. Then calculate the total hours you spent and multiply by your hourly rate. That amount can serve as the basis for requesting a donation from the council. Is this what Wayne did? Or is this only how outsiders do it? I can’t seem to find his app published on the App Store… weird eh? ---
**Author:** ![bruges](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b3f665/32.png) [@bruges](https://forum.grin.mw/u/bruges)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2026, 11:56am UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/withdrawn-development-proposal-grin-cryptocurrency-wallet-for-ios/12467/43 "2026-04-14T11:56:13Z")
> [@syntaxjak](#): > > That’s cool man they won’t pay, They only fund themselves internally or have you not noticed. This is not true. And btw, council members are those who contributes to Grin. > **[Completed - Projects - Grin CC](https://aglkm.github.io/gcc/projects/#completed)** > > Here you can browse the projects supported by community funding and requested features by Grin community. > **[Donations - Projects - Grin CC](https://aglkm.github.io/gcc/projects/#donations)** > > Here you can browse the projects supported by community funding and requested features by Grin community. ---
**Author:** ![waynegeorge](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.grin.mw/waynegeorge/32/6601_2.png) [@waynegeorge](https://forum.grin.mw/u/waynegeorge)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2026, 11:56am UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/withdrawn-development-proposal-grin-cryptocurrency-wallet-for-ios/12467/44 "2026-04-14T11:56:56Z")
> [@waynegeorge](#): > > £38K isn’t a life changing amount of money Another important clarification is that this amount was being charged by a legal UK entity that has to pay corporation tax and expenses so not just straight into someone’s pocket. ---
**Author:** ![syntaxjak](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.grin.mw/syntaxjak/32/6733_2.png) [@syntaxjak](https://forum.grin.mw/u/syntaxjak)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2026, 12:04pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/withdrawn-development-proposal-grin-cryptocurrency-wallet-for-ios/12467/45 "2026-04-14T12:04:12Z")
Call me crazy but I don’t think that’s how donations are suppose to work lol sorry I had to hahaha it’s a joke relax lol ![IMG_5705](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/uploads/grin/original/2X/f/f86e89196c21f6aff5c61d13a45b387554dfb861.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![bruges](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b3f665/32.png) [@bruges](https://forum.grin.mw/u/bruges)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2026, 12:06pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/withdrawn-development-proposal-grin-cryptocurrency-wallet-for-ios/12467/46 "2026-04-14T12:06:20Z")
> **[Funding Requests - Grin CC](https://aglkm.github.io/gcc/funding_requests/)** ---
**Author:** ![bruges](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b3f665/32.png) [@bruges](https://forum.grin.mw/u/bruges)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2026, 12:10pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/withdrawn-development-proposal-grin-cryptocurrency-wallet-for-ios/12467/47 "2026-04-14T12:10:42Z")
> [@Donations to Ardo, Nicolas and Scilio](https://forum.grin.mw/t/donations-to-ardo-nicolas-and-scilio/12228): > > The Council members voted and approved the following donations: To @ardocrat for his work on Grim wallet. $40K. To @NicolasFlamel for his work on Cuckatoo Reference Miner plus a bonus for previous work completed by him for Grin OC and Grin CC. $25K. A bonus to @scilio for his work on Mwixnet. $10K. Payment TX: [75d55dcaf681ecb41f15c0edd7c8cadf79e5598d8b68a5759559f039e84aedbf](https://mempool.space/tx/75d55dcaf681ecb41f15c0edd7c8cadf79e5598d8b68a5759559f039e84aedbf?mode=details) ---
**Author:** ![syntaxjak](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.grin.mw/syntaxjak/32/6733_2.png) [@syntaxjak](https://forum.grin.mw/u/syntaxjak)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2026, 12:39pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/withdrawn-development-proposal-grin-cryptocurrency-wallet-for-ios/12467/48 "2026-04-14T12:39:23Z")
In general though, like just like ethically speaking, shouldn’t the group of people who decide who gets the donations kinda not be eligible to receive them themselves, it’s like a conflict of interest or whatever no? I understand that the members of the council are council members specifically because they contribute to grin, which is fine, but if that’s the case, then shouldn’t a different committee be formed to decide who gets donations, therefore avoiding any obvious conflicts of interests? ---
**Author:** ![Anynomous](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.grin.mw/anynomous/32/2928_2.png) [@Anynomous](https://forum.grin.mw/u/Anynomous)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2026, 12:59pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/withdrawn-development-proposal-grin-cryptocurrency-wallet-for-ios/12467/49 "2026-04-14T12:59:11Z")
Maybe you have not noticed, but there has not been an abundance of people willing to sacrifice their time for this project. As @bruges has shown, there is an abundance of examples of any of the existing councils donating to projects after completion. We can also add the examples of the work of @renzokuken where he received donations for his work on mimblewimble-py and the donation to @bruges for his work on [https://grincoin.org/](https://grincoin.org/). And neither of them were council members when their donations were first discussed. So cut the crap with this council members funding council members nonsense. Instead, use your energy productively and build that APP so we can make a donation do you. ---
**Author:** ![Anynomous](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.grin.mw/anynomous/32/2928_2.png) [@Anynomous](https://forum.grin.mw/u/Anynomous)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2026, 1:00pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/withdrawn-development-proposal-grin-cryptocurrency-wallet-for-ios/12467/50 "2026-04-14T13:00:40Z")
> [@waynegeorge](#): > > Another important clarification is that this amount was being charged by a legal UK entity that has to pay corporation tax and expenses so not just straight into someone’s pocket. I can imagine that adds complexity and costs. Also, the UK is just more expensive than most countries, so is the US. So paying a developer from these countries will always be a bit more expensive just because to make a living in these countries is expensive. ---
**Author:** ![bruges](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b3f665/32.png) [@bruges](https://forum.grin.mw/u/bruges)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2026, 1:01pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/withdrawn-development-proposal-grin-cryptocurrency-wallet-for-ios/12467/51 "2026-04-14T13:01:14Z")
Maybe, once we have a larger community with more trusted people who can form a council, but for now it would be sad to exclude someone from receiving donations just because they’re also on the council. By the way, several current council members have contributed significantly to Grin without ever requesting any funding or donations. ---
**Author:** ![trab](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f04885/32.png) [@trab](https://forum.grin.mw/u/trab)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2026, 3:53pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/withdrawn-development-proposal-grin-cryptocurrency-wallet-for-ios/12467/52 "2026-04-14T15:53:18Z")
> [@syntaxjak](#): > > we already had a very nice iOS wallet for grin Tbh the UX was really bad. I hated that wallet creation flow with a passion ---
**Author:** ![trab](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f04885/32.png) [@trab](https://forum.grin.mw/u/trab)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2026, 4:00pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/withdrawn-development-proposal-grin-cryptocurrency-wallet-for-ios/12467/53 "2026-04-14T16:00:02Z")
> [@waynegeorge](#): > > I sacrificed some of my own time Spending time on a hobby isn’t a sacrifice… if it’s not enjoyable, you shouldn’t do it. Btw, why not just put the app on the AppStore? I feel like I’m missing something here. It looks good on a CV to have a project like that to your name and you could even charge for it if you wanted (I’d pay for it). If you want to make it free, the community would definitely reimburse you on the Apple developer account costs. ---
**Author:** ![waynegeorge](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.grin.mw/waynegeorge/32/6601_2.png) [@waynegeorge](https://forum.grin.mw/u/waynegeorge)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2026, 5:07pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/withdrawn-development-proposal-grin-cryptocurrency-wallet-for-ios/12467/54 "2026-04-14T17:07:45Z")
> [@trab](#): > > Spending time on a hobby isn’t a sacrifice… if it’s not enjoyable, you shouldn’t do it. Due to work and family commitments, I don’t currently have much time for hobbies. I would love to be in a position to build it to completion for free. > [@trab](#): > > Btw, why not just put the app on the AppStore? I feel like I’m missing something here The app in its current form is not suitable for mainnet. I already attempted to publish it build as a testnet version without success in case you didn’t know. Publishing on the App Store also requires a business developer account which carries additional legal responsibilities. > [@trab](#): > > It looks good on a CV to have a project like that to your name and you could even charge for it if you wanted (I’d pay for it). I disagree that the app value is more to the creator in terms of resume. That may be true if the business was focused on providing crypto apps though. In terms of charging for it, I estimate that the revenue would not be significant due to number of users. Anyone at this stage is free to complete the app, create a legal entity, and publish it. Perhaps @syntaxjak could do it for $100 being how easy it would be for him though I have seen no sign of him being able to do anything other than moan about and disrupt others actually trying to do things. ---
**Author:** ![syntaxjak](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.grin.mw/syntaxjak/32/6733_2.png) [@syntaxjak](https://forum.grin.mw/u/syntaxjak)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2026, 9:26pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/withdrawn-development-proposal-grin-cryptocurrency-wallet-for-ios/12467/55 "2026-04-14T21:26:27Z")
> [@waynegeorge](#): > > I already attempted to publish it build as a testnet version without success in case you didn’t know. > [@waynegeorge](#): > > Perhaps @syntaxjak could do it for $100 being how easy it would be for him though I have seen no sign of him being able to do anything other than moan about and disrupt others actually trying to do things. I could definitely clone your repo and have codex take a look at it, see if I can help you finish it up for mainnet. (Don’t worry, I won’t be asking for 40k to help out the community) (I’m working a skilled tradesman job for about 50 hours a week… but if I feel like it might be fun, Codex and I could take a look at it) ---
**Author:** ![ardocrat](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.grin.mw/ardocrat/32/5164_2.png) [@ardocrat](https://forum.grin.mw/u/ardocrat)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2026, 7:46am UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/withdrawn-development-proposal-grin-cryptocurrency-wallet-for-ios/12467/56 "2026-04-15T07:46:17Z")
> [@waynegeorge](#): > > The app in its current form is not suitable for mainnet. But it could be posted to Testflight at least, I dont think you will have problems with your business for this, its simple step that could attract more users/testers from the beginning. ---
**Author:** ![waynegeorge](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.grin.mw/waynegeorge/32/6601_2.png) [@waynegeorge](https://forum.grin.mw/u/waynegeorge)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2026, 10:12am UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/withdrawn-development-proposal-grin-cryptocurrency-wallet-for-ios/12467/57 "2026-04-15T10:12:07Z")
That’s a good suggestion. I’ll look into it. [Previous page](https://forum.grin.mw/t/withdrawn-development-proposal-grin-cryptocurrency-wallet-for-ios/12467.md?page=2)