# Trade GRIN/USDT on NonLogs.io **URL:** \ **Category:** Market\ **Created:** [November 4, 2025, 7:42am UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/trade-grin-usdt-on-nonlogs-io/12193 "2025-11-04T07:42:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![login](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.grin.mw/login/32/6682_2.png) [@login](https://forum.grin.mw/u/login)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2026, 10:29pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/trade-grin-usdt-on-nonlogs-io/12193/43 "2026-08-01T22:29:35Z")
the order book is inverted ![nonlogs_orderbook](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/uploads/grin/original/2X/5/547b4bc212669c364e993c7806909ba3d991220f.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![login](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.grin.mw/login/32/6682_2.png) [@login](https://forum.grin.mw/u/login)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2026, 11:24am UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/trade-grin-usdt-on-nonlogs-io/12193/44 "2026-08-18T11:24:57Z")
it is corrected! ![nonlogs_orderbook_1](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/uploads/grin/original/2X/5/58a762eb74d865ca9706e7c0a787599b66d49e50.png) ---
**Author:** ![BOBO](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.grin.mw/bobo/32/6271_2.png) [@BOBO](https://forum.grin.mw/u/BOBO)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2026, 3:04pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/trade-grin-usdt-on-nonlogs-io/12193/45 "2026-09-01T15:04:02Z")
is what AI said true? are you still running the [Nonlogs.io](http://Nonlogs.io) for exchange coin? can we trust you.@ [nonlogs.io](http://nonlogs.io) ![ScreenShot_2026-09-01_225210_510](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/uploads/grin/original/2X/9/961e6eadee59c97a762fe09c115c4f94bd996925.png) ---
**Author:** ![dingo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c2a13f/32.png) [@dingo](https://forum.grin.mw/u/dingo)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2026, 11:18am UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/trade-grin-usdt-on-nonlogs-io/12193/46 "2026-09-02T11:18:26Z")
Bobo, ask your AI friend if it considers any unregulated exchange to be trustworthy? ☺ It’s exaggerating a bit, from what I remember there was like one person talking about an inside job. From the looks of it, it wasn’t. Use nonlogs at your own peril, as always. ---
**Author:** ![syntaxjak](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.grin.mw/syntaxjak/32/6733_2.png) [@syntaxjak](https://forum.grin.mw/u/syntaxjak)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2026, 12:24pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/trade-grin-usdt-on-nonlogs-io/12193/47 "2026-09-02T12:24:35Z")
> [@dingo](#): > > From the looks of it, it wasn’t. Actually, from the looks of it, it was an inside job. Ai is completely accurate in its assessment in my opinion. Even this “new owner” story seems sus. Don’t use at your own peril - just don’t use it at all. Many have been complaining about withdrawals needing “approval” etc. To be fair, I was able to get my grin out. So if you already have coins locked on the exchange, it might be worth the attempt to withdraw them. ---
**Author:** ![Anynomous](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.grin.mw/anynomous/32/2928_2.png) [@Anynomous](https://forum.grin.mw/u/Anynomous)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2026, 1:56pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/trade-grin-usdt-on-nonlogs-io/12193/48 "2026-09-02T13:56:26Z")
> [@syntaxjak](#): > > Ai is completely accurate in its assessment in my opinion. AI does not assess. AI is a statistical model predicting the next word in a sentence based on the information you feed it. In other words, it just echo’s information we put on this forum. I have some new secret information based on good authority that the perpetrator behind the [NonLogs.io](http://NonLogs.io) hack might have been the hacker Lord Voldemort. ---
**Author:** ![BOBO](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.grin.mw/bobo/32/6271_2.png) [@BOBO](https://forum.grin.mw/u/BOBO)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2026, 3:18pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/trade-grin-usdt-on-nonlogs-io/12193/50 "2026-09-02T15:18:55Z")
> [@dingo](#): > > Bobo, ask your AI friend if it considers any unregulated exchange to be trustworthy? ☺ that is my Ai friend deepseek told me, I thing it is very dangerous to use this kind of exchange. ![ScreenShot_2026-09-02_231454_114](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/uploads/grin/original/2X/7/7bb9ddcd422f647c19713cc06023b305a496fb0c.png) ---
**Author:** ![dingo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c2a13f/32.png) [@dingo](https://forum.grin.mw/u/dingo)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2026, 10:02pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/trade-grin-usdt-on-nonlogs-io/12193/51 "2026-09-02T22:02:59Z")
AI is consistent, I’ll grant you that. But when it comes to Grin, where do you propose to trade it, if your going to do it over a CEX? There aren’t any regulated exchanges listing Grin as far as I’m aware. ---
**Author:** ![bruges](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b3f665/32.png) [@bruges](https://forum.grin.mw/u/bruges)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2026, 10:17am UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/trade-grin-usdt-on-nonlogs-io/12193/52 "2026-09-03T10:17:02Z")
Gate (kyc) and Nonlogs (non-kyc). ---
**Author:** ![dingo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c2a13f/32.png) [@dingo](https://forum.grin.mw/u/dingo)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2026, 3:19pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/trade-grin-usdt-on-nonlogs-io/12193/53 "2026-09-03T15:19:10Z")
You’re right, there’s Gate, but they only make Grin available on a few territories (Russia, Switzerland, I think). Among the unregulated there’s Cexswap.cc also. ---
**Author:** ![BOBO](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.grin.mw/bobo/32/6271_2.png) [@BOBO](https://forum.grin.mw/u/BOBO)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2026, 4:15pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/trade-grin-usdt-on-nonlogs-io/12193/54 "2026-09-03T16:15:09Z")
Trading security requires centralized exchanges, but centralized exchanges that enforce real-name verification (KYC) render privacy coins no longer anonymous—this is a paradox. Exchanges that do not require real-name verification are insecure, which truly presents a difficult choice. Additionally, I have observed that exchanges are enormously profitable; this is evident from the hefty fines they pay during the compliance process of regulated exchanges. ---
**Author:** ![Anynomous](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.grin.mw/anynomous/32/2928_2.png) [@Anynomous](https://forum.grin.mw/u/Anynomous)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2026, 7:11am UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/trade-grin-usdt-on-nonlogs-io/12193/55 "2026-09-04T07:11:02Z")
@eravsar Are you still working on this project? > [@Janus: Monero\<-\>Grin Atomic Swaps](https://forum.grin.mw/t/janus-monero-grin-atomic-swaps/12658): > > [[Janus Monero-Grin Atomic Swap Demo] ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TruBG-FJFM) I made this topic to announce and keep track of updates on Janus, a Monero\<-\>Grin atomic swap software I am working on for a while. This video is a demo of how seamless it can get. It doesn’t prove or tell anything about the protocol yet. When it’s ready, I will be publishing a beta release on Github. There is no repository yet. I just wanted to show the community that I work on it, I first started working on it about 3 months ago, and got motiv… @BOBO Atomic swap would allow non KYC on-ramping via Monero, although I am not sure how easy you can on-ramp to Monero itself nowadays. Eravsar was the latest to work on one and I thought to remember I even have seen a demo in Telegram. Find here an overview of current Atomic sap efforts: > [@The ever elusive atomic swap. Whats the current status?](https://forum.grin.mw/t/the-ever-elusive-atomic-swap-whats-the-current-status/11184): > > What is the status of grin atomic swaps? I see in April 2018 @jaspervdm published regarding a [successful Grin-ETH atomic swap](https://medium.com/grinswap/first-grin-atomic-swap-a16b4cc19196). But, it appears to have required a change to the grin protocol (thus the use of test net) so maybe dosn’t totally count. I see in April 2019 @jaspervdm may have gotten some financial [support](https://forum.grin.mw/t/grinswap-donate-by-this-friday-and-we-get-free-money-to-build-open-source-grin-atomic-swaps/4846) for his effort on [GrinSwap](https://github.com/vault713/grinswap). That repo went stale in Oct 2019 and jaspervdm went silent on Github (March 5th 2021) and this forum (Feb 22, 2021). Per Github, GrinSwap was not com… ---
**Author:** ![syntaxjak](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.grin.mw/syntaxjak/32/6733_2.png) [@syntaxjak](https://forum.grin.mw/u/syntaxjak)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2026, 10:37am UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/trade-grin-usdt-on-nonlogs-io/12193/56 "2026-09-04T10:37:19Z")
Maybe someone could make a web page that allows non kyc access to gate funds/exchange functionality through an account api? I think beam has done this. ---
**Author:** ![login](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.grin.mw/login/32/6682_2.png) [@login](https://forum.grin.mw/u/login)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2026, 1:08pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/trade-grin-usdt-on-nonlogs-io/12193/57 "2026-09-04T13:08:39Z")
> **[GRIN/USDT0 spot market | Trading terminal — no KYC | NoirTrade](https://noirtrade.com/trade?pair=GRIN_USDT0)** > > Buy and sell GRIN vs USDT0 (GRIN/USDT0) on NoirTrade: live order book, charts, limit and market orders. No KYC required to trade this spot pair. ---
**Author:** ![Anynomous](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.grin.mw/anynomous/32/2928_2.png) [@Anynomous](https://forum.grin.mw/u/Anynomous)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2026, 5:21pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/trade-grin-usdt-on-nonlogs-io/12193/58 "2026-09-04T17:21:56Z")
@login Is there a Grin/BTC pair? ---
**Author:** ![login](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.grin.mw/login/32/6682_2.png) [@login](https://forum.grin.mw/u/login)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2026, 7:28pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/trade-grin-usdt-on-nonlogs-io/12193/59 "2026-09-04T19:28:22Z")
> **[GRIN/BTC spot market | Trading terminal — no KYC | NoirTrade](https://noirtrade.com/trade?pair=GRIN_BTC)** > > Buy and sell GRIN vs BTC (GRIN/BTC) on NoirTrade: live order book, charts, limit and market orders. No KYC required to trade this spot pair. somebody posted this platform in [wownero matrix room](https://matrix.to/#/#wownero-gen:wowne.ro) ---
**Author:** ![eravsar](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.grin.mw/eravsar/32/7237_2.png) [@eravsar](https://forum.grin.mw/u/eravsar)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2026, 9:27am UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/trade-grin-usdt-on-nonlogs-io/12193/60 "2026-09-05T09:27:39Z")
> [@Anynomous](#): > > @eravsar Are you still working on this project? yes i am. i have also implemented Monero\<-\>Litecoin(MWEB) atomic swaps so there will be a nice way to acquire Grin and Monero by getting LTC from a regulated CEX and then swapping over Janus. since MWEB is also fungible, this provides a practical way to acquire Grin and Monero without paying a premium, since there is no “dirty coins”, which made most atomic swaps impractical. i still have a lot to figure out, and i want to get this right, so i will need more time before an alpha release. ---
**Author:** ![login](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.grin.mw/login/32/6682_2.png) [@login](https://forum.grin.mw/u/login)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2026, 5:34pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/trade-grin-usdt-on-nonlogs-io/12193/61 "2026-10-26T17:34:00Z")
[nonlogs.io](http://nonlogs.io) is a scam withdrawals not working, except wownero. [try to scam? (Update, No he not scamming people) | Monero.forums](https://monero.forum/thread/try-scam-update-no-he-not-scamming-people) [forums | Monero.forums](https://monero.forum/thread/forums) ---
**Author:** ![dingo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c2a13f/32.png) [@dingo](https://forum.grin.mw/u/dingo)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2026, 6:51pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/trade-grin-usdt-on-nonlogs-io/12193/62 "2026-10-26T18:51:29Z")
Sad. I miss the old nonlogs ---
**Author:** ![grinno](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@grinno](https://forum.grin.mw/u/grinno)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2026, 1:42pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/trade-grin-usdt-on-nonlogs-io/12193/63 "2026-10-30T13:42:32Z")
men what is going on with nonlogs? [Previous page](https://forum.grin.mw/t/trade-grin-usdt-on-nonlogs-io/12193.md?page=2)