# My Struggle With Grin
**URL:** https://forum.grin.mw/t/my-struggle-with-grin/11817
**Category:** Rants & Flames
**Created:** [June 2, 2025, 10:24pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/my-struggle-with-grin/11817 "2025-06-02T22:24:38Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@syntaxjak](https://forum.grin.mw/u/syntaxjak)
#### Post date: [June 2, 2025, 10:24pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/my-struggle-with-grin/11817/1 "2025-06-02T22:24:38Z")
Why, they ask—why does such a pure, beautiful project like Grin limp forward like a ghost ship drifting through dead waters? Why no adoption? Why no devs? Why no listings, no buzz, no believers?
Let me tell you why.
Price.
In this backwards world, truth doesn’t spread because it’s true. It spreads because it’s rich. People follow green candles, not gray papers. You want adoption? You want development? You want a vibrant community, new exchanges, listings, tools, mobile wallets, hype, memes, traction, life?
Raise. The. Damn. Price.
That’s it. That’s the whole secret.
Because people don’t actually think for themselves—they follow signals. And the loudest signal in crypto is price. As price goes up, suddenly Grin’s simplicity is elegant. Suddenly Mimblewimble is revolutionary. Suddenly no-premine is noble. Suddenly devs return. Suddenly eyes open.
And listen—until now, the price was doomed. Grin’s early inflation was brutal, unrelenting. Every block another nail in its own coffin. The market couldn’t breathe under that weight. But now? Now the tide is turning. Inflation is flattening. Issuance is predictable, stable, sane. The charts don’t lie—the bleeding is slowing.
Now is the time.
If we push now—if we put pressure, set the tone, build a floor, force the narrative—price will move. And when it does, so will everything else. People will follow. Devs will wake up. Gatekeepers will say “wait, what’s this Grin thing again?” The signal will be undeniable.
The technology is already here. The ethos is already here. The potential is rotting on the table because we’ve let price rot. And that ends now.
Because if Grin’s price rises, Grin rises.
And if Grin rises?
So do we.
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### Author:  [@syntaxjak](https://forum.grin.mw/u/syntaxjak)
#### Post date: [June 2, 2025, 11:35pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/my-struggle-with-grin/11817/2 "2025-06-02T23:35:52Z")
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### Author:  [@BOBO](https://forum.grin.mw/u/BOBO)
#### Post date: [June 3, 2025, 1:50am UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/my-struggle-with-grin/11817/3 "2025-06-03T01:50:20Z")
You are speaking the truth
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### Author:  [@Anynomous](https://forum.grin.mw/u/Anynomous)
#### Post date: [June 3, 2025, 11:20am UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/my-struggle-with-grin/11817/4 "2025-06-03T11:20:40Z")
@syntaxjak I leave it to you to raise the price 💰, I still have some buy orders that need hitting although I am not sure they ever will be hit 😉
You are right that when the price rises, people start spending. No one likes buying 10$ in any currency and then spend it at a loss. So for grineconmics, at least some buyers need to not be at a loss.
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### Author:  [@syntaxjak](https://forum.grin.mw/u/syntaxjak)
#### Post date: [June 3, 2025, 1:43pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/my-struggle-with-grin/11817/5 "2025-06-03T13:43:04Z")
@Anynomous It takes a village bro. It is not my responsibility to raise the price - if only there was some sorta community fund that could be deployed to achieve this. Oh wait, there is! hahaha
You’d figure it would be logical to spend the grin fund on I dunno, grin? Lol
Grin cc is like YouTubers who promo a coin but don’t hold any. Except they don’t even promote the coin hahaha
Grin cc members don’t belong in conversation like this. They are part of the problem not the solution at this point.
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### Author:  [@markov](https://forum.grin.mw/u/markov)
#### Post date: [June 3, 2025, 2:00pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/my-struggle-with-grin/11817/6 "2025-06-03T14:00:01Z")
It is so irony that the fund is in BTC but not in Grin. Even funnier is that the bounty is also awarded in BTC rather than Grin. Hahahahaha.
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### Author:  [@syntaxjak](https://forum.grin.mw/u/syntaxjak)
#### Post date: [June 3, 2025, 2:09pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/my-struggle-with-grin/11817/7 "2025-06-03T14:09:42Z")
@markov Ya man, any donated funds for the grin project are instantly removed from grin and diverted into btc.
Constantly draining any community donations towards the grin project and instead using it to support btc…
People who donate to grin presumably want it spent towards grin, instead it’s spend for btc. Like if peeps wanted to donate to btc project shouldn’t they go somewhere else?
It is ironic, hilarious, and even down right scammy.
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### Author:  [@Anynomous](https://forum.grin.mw/u/Anynomous)
#### Post date: [June 3, 2025, 2:41pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/my-struggle-with-grin/11817/8 "2025-06-03T14:41:39Z")
> [@syntaxjak](#):
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> Grin cc is like YouTubers who promo a coin but don’t hold any. Except they don’t even promote the coin hahaha
> [@markov](#):
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> > [@markov](#):
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> > It is so irony that the fund is in BTC but not in Grin.
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> Even funnier is that the bounty is also awarded in BTC rather than Grin. Hahahahaha
Untrue. Grin CC has a Grin wallet, has historically mined grin and bought grin to pay our groundkeepers and developers who wanted to be paid in Grin. Please do your research before ranting.
History has shown us that this was a correct choice since Bitcoin has appreciated while Grin price has depreciated as could be expected based on its linear supply.
> [@syntaxjak](#):
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> People who donate to grin presumably want it spent towards grin, instead it’s spend for btc. Like if peeps wanted to donate to btc project shouldn’t they go somewhere els
No one is stopping anyone from buying grin and making donation to the Grin project in grin. Donated BTC is used for developing Grin, what else should it be used for.
Just be patient bro, in 100 year you will be in the profit 😉
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### Author:  [@waynegeorge](https://forum.grin.mw/u/waynegeorge)
#### Post date: [June 3, 2025, 2:44pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/my-struggle-with-grin/11817/9 "2025-06-03T14:44:48Z")
> [@syntaxjak](#):
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> Grin cc members don’t belong in conversation like this. They are part of the problem not the solution at this point.
Nothing stopped you from submitting an offer to join the CC. Why would you critisise whilst not offering anything? If you care and have good ideas, share them.
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### Author:  [@trab](https://forum.grin.mw/u/trab)
#### Post date: [June 3, 2025, 5:47pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/my-struggle-with-grin/11817/10 "2025-06-03T17:47:30Z")
> [@markov](#):
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> It is so irony that the fund is in BTC but not in Grin. Even funnier is that the bounty is also awarded in BTC rather than Grin
Why is that ironic? Grin doesn’t hold its value long term right now because of the inflation. If the CC held its funds in Grin it would be basically zero now lol. Do you think the people that created Grin were stupid?
> [@syntaxjak](#):
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> If we push now—if we put pressure, set the tone, build a floor, force the narrative
Is this similar to the last thread you made? I think the very first reply was a reasonable response [The Importance of Liquidity for Grin’s Market Stability - #2 by Anynomous](https://forum.grin.mw/t/the-importance-of-liquidity-for-grin-s-market-stability/11632/2) Particularly this part:
> Anyone willing can become a market maker with their own funds to stabilize the price and make profits from price swings.
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### Author:  [@emi22n](https://forum.grin.mw/u/emi22n)
#### Post date: [June 3, 2025, 6:26pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/my-struggle-with-grin/11817/11 "2025-06-03T18:26:46Z")
I don’t think it’s normal to say that the price of GRIN went low due to the linear inflation. Why don’t we say that we failed to promote it and listing on exchange making it available? Let’s accept we failed as a community and see what we can change.
We failed everyone.
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### Author:  [@trab](https://forum.grin.mw/u/trab)
#### Post date: [June 3, 2025, 7:01pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/my-struggle-with-grin/11817/12 "2025-06-03T19:01:02Z")
> [@emi22n](#):
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> I don’t think it’s normal to say that the price of GRIN went low due to the linear inflation.
Inflation had a major impact. If you go back in the forum, you can read how people were aware that it would play out like this before it even launched.
> **[Grinflation.com](https://web.archive.org/web/20241103154937/https://grinflation.com/)**
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> A website that calculate the inflation rate of Grin coin.
The bitcoin was donated for the express purpose of helping to improve the UX so that increased adoption would cover for the inflation. We failed that part of it yeah
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### Author:  [@Anynomous](https://forum.grin.mw/u/Anynomous)
#### Post date: [June 3, 2025, 7:31pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/my-struggle-with-grin/11817/13 "2025-06-03T19:31:24Z")
> [@emi22n](#):
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> I don’t think it’s normal to say that the price of GRIN went low due to the linear inflation. Why don’t we say that we failed to promote it and listing on exchange making it available? Let’s accept we failed as a community and see what we can change.
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> We failed everyone.
Am I the only one who does not mind a low price and uses the opportunity to load up. If the price goes high, I am happy since I can shop using Grin, if the price goes low, I am happy because I can load up. Price never ever has been or will be anyone’s responsibility. The market determines the price.
I wonder has anyone ever complained to the Bitcoin core team why they were not using their funds to pump the price 🙃
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### Author:  [@emi22n](https://forum.grin.mw/u/emi22n)
#### Post date: [June 3, 2025, 7:36pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/my-struggle-with-grin/11817/14 "2025-06-03T19:36:25Z")
I have not said to use the funds to increase the price.
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### Author:  [@Anynomous](https://forum.grin.mw/u/Anynomous)
#### Post date: [June 3, 2025, 7:42pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/my-struggle-with-grin/11817/15 "2025-06-03T19:42:25Z")
No, sorry, that was suggested by @syntaxjak. But neither is it the responsibility of the community to pump the price. Better accessibility to grin would of course be great, but we cannot pay for listings.
@emi22n I do agree that the price of grin is unnaturally low, do with that conclusion whatever you want.
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### Author:  [@emi22n](https://forum.grin.mw/u/emi22n)
#### Post date: [June 3, 2025, 8:08pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/my-struggle-with-grin/11817/16 "2025-06-03T20:08:09Z")
I do think it’s unnaturally low, but you know something? Last time when Grin dumped to around 2c for the first time I also said it’s unnaturally low and I bought some. Now it hit 1.3c.
MWC is a fork of Grin. What the hell he did with that coin that it went so high?
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### Author:  [@waynegeorge](https://forum.grin.mw/u/waynegeorge)
#### Post date: [June 3, 2025, 10:09pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/my-struggle-with-grin/11817/17 "2025-06-03T22:09:19Z")
> [@emi22n](#):
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> MWC is a fork of Grin. What the hell he did with that coin that it went so high?
Fixed supply probably helped.
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### Author:  [@bruges](https://forum.grin.mw/u/bruges)
#### Post date: [June 3, 2025, 10:50pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/my-struggle-with-grin/11817/18 "2025-06-03T22:50:33Z")
If you pre-mine a huge part of the total supply and leave only small amount for public trading, you can get a large market cap.
As an example, let’s say I pre-mined 9 coins out of total 10 coins, so there’s only 1 coin available for trading and someone bought it for $100, then the marketcap would be $1000. So, for only $100 you have created a marketcap of $1000. In Grin’s case, when all coins are available for trading, you have to invest all $1000 to do the same.
That’s why MWC has such a large market cap, but if you exclude all the premined coins from the calculations, you will get somewhat the same marketcap as Grin.
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### Author:  [@BOBO](https://forum.grin.mw/u/BOBO)
#### Post date: [June 4, 2025, 1:05am UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/my-struggle-with-grin/11817/19 "2025-06-04T01:05:57Z")
> [@waynegeorge](#):
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> Fixed supply
The biggest advantage of the grin Project is its unlimited supply
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### Author:  [@BOBO](https://forum.grin.mw/u/BOBO)
#### Post date: [June 4, 2025, 1:11am UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/my-struggle-with-grin/11817/20 "2025-06-04T01:11:03Z")
> [@Anynomous](#):
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> Price never ever has been or will be anyone’s responsibility.
it is true.
You buy grin coin,you’ve earned enough, you don’t have to give it to CC or anyone else;You buy grin coin,you loss money,You can’t blame CC or anyone else。
CC doesn’t care about the price, and it’s not CC’s obligation to drive it up.
Prices are the result of a free market
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