# Monkyyys market shitposting thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Market\ **Created:** [January 14, 2019, 10:07pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/monkyyys-market-shitposting-thread/2163 "2019-01-14T22:07:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![cleopatra](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.grin.mw/cleopatra/32/1130_2.png) [@cleopatra](https://forum.grin.mw/u/cleopatra)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2019, 11:34pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/monkyyys-market-shitposting-thread/2163/165 "2019-01-26T23:34:57Z")
grin wallet receive -i ~/Desktop/MagicInternetMoney/regift/happybirthdaymom ---
**Author:** ![monkyyy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.grin.mw/monkyyy/32/1590_2.png) [@monkyyy](https://forum.grin.mw/u/monkyyy)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2019, 3:54am UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/monkyyys-market-shitposting-thread/2163/166 "2019-01-27T03:54:26Z")
What if “embrace extand extinguish” by the old banking industry works and they add smart contracts(old definition) to the (important) national currencies? The real market could be only a shrinking gray market. That’s still a chunk of change (how many poeple pay proper taxes waiting tables, farmers markets or cleaning houses) but’s not the revolution I’m looking for. That’s a case where it breaks "even"ish and I find that more likely then zero. ---
**Author:** ![monkyyy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.grin.mw/monkyyy/32/1590_2.png) [@monkyyy](https://forum.grin.mw/u/monkyyy)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2019, 4:15am UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/monkyyys-market-shitposting-thread/2163/167 "2019-01-27T04:15:41Z")
Has the market forgotten that by definition new coins experience infinite inflation (old definition) when they first launch? It’s starts off with infinite into 100%, into 50% in whatever arbitary time period your looking at. And we aren’t even out a month yet and I believe markets have at least muliyear foresight. Bitcoin took 2 years to be worth fractions of pennies, and right now I can’t short this price so this is not an adversarial knowlegse enverment, I could make a model and calculate how silly this price is, but can we not? ---
**Author:** ![Numecca](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/dc4da7/32.png) [@Numecca](https://forum.grin.mw/u/Numecca)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2019, 5:15am UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/monkyyys-market-shitposting-thread/2163/168 "2019-01-27T05:15:46Z")
It would be interesting to see this though. Maybe even for posterity. ---
**Author:** ![elevan](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.grin.mw/elevan/32/1997_2.png) [@elevan](https://forum.grin.mw/u/elevan)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2019, 8:02am UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/monkyyys-market-shitposting-thread/2163/169 "2019-01-27T08:02:30Z")
Somebody did: > **[Price of Grin (pre-launch) – kovalskee – Medium](https://medium.com/@kowalskr/price-of-grin-pre-launch-620cf3b88645)** > > Estimating the Price of Grin pre-launch of the Grin mainnet. Various tables and approaches — pretty muchguessing and educating. ---
**Author:** ![monkyyy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.grin.mw/monkyyy/32/1590_2.png) [@monkyyy](https://forum.grin.mw/u/monkyyy)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2019, 8:54am UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/monkyyys-market-shitposting-thread/2163/170 "2019-01-27T08:54:19Z")
“lets compare grins price to what it will be in years, without considering risk or time preference” My problem is that time preference in this space has to be extremely high, as money your not investing in bitcoin… is money not invested in bitcoin and if you don’t believe in bitcoin your not in grin period. These high in dollar price estimations are ignoring that your taking extra risk … over bitcoin and bitcoin is likely going to have fantastic returns anyway. If I was doing this I would make charts of btc domination, assume a geometric curve of market position(btc is first at 50% market, 2nd coin is at 25%, etc; but whatever it looks like now) based off the different btc dominance, then price a growth curve _in bitcoin_ with charts of different bitcoin dominance position and X years till grin become the Yth most important coin Keeping grin for years, mean counter party risk or tech requirements and loose coins risks in a way, a cold storage wallet of btc or even certain exchanges like coin base or Gemini doesn’t with their far more tested security and age and means grin needs to succeed growing an economy, which i believe will happen but its still a risk and an ongoing one that needs to be factored in for yearly based things. You can’t presume 0 time preference, in this space especially; or completelky ignoring risks and headaches. ---
**Author:** ![monkyyy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.grin.mw/monkyyy/32/1590_2.png) [@monkyyy](https://forum.grin.mw/u/monkyyy)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2019, 9:15am UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/monkyyys-market-shitposting-thread/2163/171 "2019-01-27T09:15:24Z")
How much money could we raise for the “monkyy fucking stop procrastinating and make a spread sheet, then give me a link” kickstarter? ---
**Author:** ![grinpay.org](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ccd318/32.png) [@grinpay.org](https://forum.grin.mw/u/grinpay.org)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2019, 10:02am UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/monkyyys-market-shitposting-thread/2163/172 "2019-01-27T10:02:24Z")
[https://bitgoal.io/?address=1RjHMhQN4XvHbq7MLrQMmHLQDN5LyvN1V&amount=100.00000000&title=monkyy%20fucking%20stop%20procrastinating%20and%20make%20a%20spread%20sheet](https://bitgoal.io/?address=1RjHMhQN4XvHbq7MLrQMmHLQDN5LyvN1V&amount=100.00000000&title=monkyy%20fucking%20stop%20procrastinating%20and%20make%20a%20spread%20sheet) ---
**Author:** ![monkyyy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.grin.mw/monkyyy/32/1590_2.png) [@monkyyy](https://forum.grin.mw/u/monkyyy)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2019, 10:30am UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/monkyyys-market-shitposting-thread/2163/173 "2019-01-27T10:30:25Z")
OI I dont know that address or if I do I have no idea how you do and where it is ---
**Author:** ![grinpay.org](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ccd318/32.png) [@grinpay.org](https://forum.grin.mw/u/grinpay.org)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2019, 11:27am UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/monkyyys-market-shitposting-thread/2163/174 "2019-01-27T11:27:23Z")
Starting that fundraiser for that spreadsheet, pessimistically set the target at 100 BTC\*. - all funds will be sent to monkyy and used exclusively for that project. ---
**Author:** ![kargakis](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.grin.mw/kargakis/32/48_2.png) [@kargakis](https://forum.grin.mw/u/kargakis)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2019, 2:06pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/monkyyys-market-shitposting-thread/2163/175 "2019-01-27T14:06:52Z")
Post a btc address… ---
**Author:** ![monkyyy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.grin.mw/monkyyy/32/1590_2.png) [@monkyyy](https://forum.grin.mw/u/monkyyy)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2019, 4:07pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/monkyyys-market-shitposting-thread/2163/176 "2019-01-27T16:07:55Z")
1RjHMhQN4XvHbq7MLrQMmHLQDN5LyvN1V ---
**Author:** ![monkyyy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.grin.mw/monkyyy/32/1590_2.png) [@monkyyy](https://forum.grin.mw/u/monkyyy)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2019, 5:20pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/monkyyys-market-shitposting-thread/2163/177 "2019-01-27T17:20:17Z")
> 0.04016 BTC the fuck? grinpay your trolling me right? ---
**Author:** ![elevan](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.grin.mw/elevan/32/1997_2.png) [@elevan](https://forum.grin.mw/u/elevan)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2019, 5:51pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/monkyyys-market-shitposting-thread/2163/178 "2019-01-27T17:51:28Z")
10 ツ! (these are only the missing characters of this post.) ---
**Author:** ![monkyyy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.grin.mw/monkyyy/32/1590_2.png) [@monkyyy](https://forum.grin.mw/u/monkyyy)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2019, 9:11pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/monkyyys-market-shitposting-thread/2163/179 "2019-01-27T21:11:29Z")
… Ok then, I guess I will be doing that. Thank you, it means more than you could reasonibly know, seeing as I take the same devil may care appoch to life as I talk, that’s already more money then CT stole from me. I don’t post sob stories, a fair few would call me out on my shit in this case but I’m far less rich then you probably would think knowing I got in btc at 400, even if I’m still doing fine, it would however scare normal poeple. ---
**Author:** ![Grin1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.grin.mw/grin1/32/1901_2.png) [@Grin1](https://forum.grin.mw/u/Grin1)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 7:21pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/monkyyys-market-shitposting-thread/2163/180 "2019-01-28T19:21:42Z")
Turn your Grim into Grin. I sold all my BTC for GRIN on day one and couldn’t be happier. When BTC $1200? Suggested monkey party ツ (dance across the nation min 01:51:30) soundtrack: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuLq4fXxX1E](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuLq4fXxX1E) ---
**Author:** ![Numecca](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/dc4da7/32.png) [@Numecca](https://forum.grin.mw/u/Numecca)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 10:31pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/monkyyys-market-shitposting-thread/2163/181 "2019-01-28T22:31:05Z")
@monkyyy I am sorry for this shill. I must have the information. Long and short answers are both acceptable. Give me your opinion, and then explain like I’m 5. > [@Privacy does not matter](https://forum.grin.mw/t/privacy-does-not-matter/3471): > > Privacy matters, but not to everyone. It is a weak value proposition to the rest of the world, and it the centerpiece of Grin. It is default for a reason, and people need to know why. Grin is for everyone. We have to manufacture desire to use it. Let’s start talking about why privacy matters. Why does privacy matter? What are we giving up that Grin will give us back \*if we use it? Teach me the value of privacy in Grin, so that I will want to use it. ---
**Author:** ![Grin1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.grin.mw/grin1/32/1901_2.png) [@Grin1](https://forum.grin.mw/u/Grin1)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 11:30pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/monkyyys-market-shitposting-thread/2163/182 "2019-01-28T23:30:35Z")
A graphic symbol of ‘why privacy matters’ is a backyard hedge between neighbors. Imagine a graphical widget with an auto-dial feature that can illustrate each ‘users’ tolerance levels for privacy using a green “privet” hedge as an example we can all relate to. The greenery grows or shrinks to the way you like and can you can fidget with the chart by numbers while seeing the hedge animation change. Later you might change your mind and want your privet hedge lower or higher on mood. Isn’t that how privacy works, (closes blinds for the night)? Do you like the idea of: “GRIN ツ 10-n-1” as a tagline? Privacy being one of 10 super-features with the ‘hedge widget’ as an example of an on boarding tool? Featuring 9 other super-features would balance out the message so it’s not a leading statement then. Cheers. ---
**Author:** ![Numecca](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/dc4da7/32.png) [@Numecca](https://forum.grin.mw/u/Numecca)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 2:18am UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/monkyyys-market-shitposting-thread/2163/183 "2019-01-29T02:18:09Z")
> [@Grin1](#): > > A graphic symbol of ‘why privacy matters’ is a backyard hedge between neighbors. Imagine a graphical widget with an auto-dial feature that can illustrate each ‘users’ tolerance levels for privacy using a green “privet” hedge as an example we can all relate to. The greenery grows or shrinks to the way you like and can you can fidget with the chart by numbers while seeing the hedge animation change. Later you might change your mind and want your privet hedge lower or higher on mood. I think there is a good idea in here. We could create an experience around privacy through life action video with a decision tree, and it collects information about you based on your answers, “Why Privacy Matters.” These are disposable experiences designed to promulgate a message. At the end we generate some results that shows how much privacy matters to you. And then, we have out opportunity to show them what the consequences are, in relationship to why you should use Grin. That takes us back to the question: - why does privacy matter? - Why do we want it? - _What have we given up that Grin will give back?_ > [@Grin1](#): > > Do you like the idea of: “GRIN ツ 10-n-1” as a tagline? > Privacy being one of 10 super-features with the ‘hedge widget’ as an example of an on boarding tool? > Featuring 9 other super-features would balance out the message so it’s not a leading statement then. > Cheers. My opinion is that this can either be lighting in a bottle, or it is an art. This facet should encompass a lot of thinking behind it. You want to get as much latitude with symbolic and metaphoric value as possible and ideally you want to communicate an affect. It could be a thought, “Think Different” that means something about you if you use it. It could be an action “Just do it.” that transforms you when you use it. Or it can be the mission statement. I recommend that we use this as our departure point. Ideas can develop from there. What comes to mind from [this statement](https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5098450.0) for you? Re: Grin > It’s clearly built in the same cypherpunk spirit that Bitcoin was: increased freedom/sovereignty through technology. That looks like a mission statement to me. The brand handle should encompass so much. but most importantly it must be understandable at face value instantly. GRIN ツ 10-n-1 What comes into your head from what we are doing here at Grin using that statement above as your departure point? _“increased freedom/sovereignty through technology.”_ Apply to Grin. ---
**Author:** ![Numecca](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/dc4da7/32.png) [@Numecca](https://forum.grin.mw/u/Numecca)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 2:57am UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/monkyyys-market-shitposting-thread/2163/185 "2019-01-29T02:57:03Z")
What you’re asking is a great question. > [@Grin1](#): > > Maybe you can easily fill in the other key points that need communication design? What are the tenets of its meaning system? And what are the dimensions of its personality based on its unique qualities. That is where the story is. The Epic of Grin. A brand is an instrument. When you think about Grin, there is a synaptic association. What is the cognitive reflex of ideas that you have? If we play the right chords, in the right sequence, then we have music. If we have music, then we can make people dance. > **[How to start a movement](https://www.ted.com/talks/derek_sivers_how_to_start_a_movement)** > > With help from some surprising footage, Derek Sivers explains how movements really get started. (Hint: it takes two.) That is Grin. [Previous page](https://forum.grin.mw/t/monkyyys-market-shitposting-thread/2163.md?page=8) [Next page](https://forum.grin.mw/t/monkyyys-market-shitposting-thread/2163.md?page=10)