# Is a privacy coin even good for the world? **URL:** \ **Category:** Uncategorized\ **Created:** [November 11, 2023, 9:27pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/is-a-privacy-coin-even-good-for-the-world/10815 "2023-11-11T21:27:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![tromp](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.grin.mw/tromp/32/22_2.png) [@tromp](https://forum.grin.mw/u/tromp)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2023, 5:01pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/is-a-privacy-coin-even-good-for-the-world/10815/42 "2023-11-23T17:01:44Z")
> [@ardocrat](#): > > P.S. Grin target is rather scalability than strong privacy Indeed; privacy is not the focus of Grin. Its focus is more on simplicity and elegance [1]. More on-chain rivacy comes with considerable cost [2]. [1] [do any coins rival Grin's simplicity?](https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5309951.msg56111107#msg56111107) [2] [[Megathread] Bitcoin Layer 1 Privacy - concepts, ideas, research, discussion](https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5410526.msg60786645#msg60786645) ---
**Author:** ![Grinyin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a6a055/32.png) [@Grinyin](https://forum.grin.mw/u/Grinyin)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2023, 9:18pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/is-a-privacy-coin-even-good-for-the-world/10815/43 "2023-11-23T21:18:51Z")
I understand the idea that privacy can be viewed as a scale from 0 - 100 but this is because your average lay person lives by the standard of “just good enough”. Which is why http came before https. But there are people who demand more and seek the very best, it doesn’t mean they are killers or thieves. And if the claim is one of temptation and opportunity, a belief their actions will be risk free, then this is their natural state of being, the root cause is not privacy tools. Let law enforcement do their job and uphold our birthright that we are innocent until proven otherwise. I think zooko said it best, privacy is consent. That’s it, nothing else, thus other people’s snooping and interference is neither requested or appreciated. ---
**Author:** ![vegycslol](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.grin.mw/vegycslol/32/3340_2.png) [@vegycslol](https://forum.grin.mw/u/vegycslol)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2023, 9:29pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/is-a-privacy-coin-even-good-for-the-world/10815/44 "2023-11-23T21:29:29Z")
Based on that logic we should allow anyone to build nuclear bomb while totally ignoring that there are enough mad people in this world which would in the end destroy it. ---
**Author:** ![Grinyin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a6a055/32.png) [@Grinyin](https://forum.grin.mw/u/Grinyin)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2023, 2:35am UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/is-a-privacy-coin-even-good-for-the-world/10815/45 "2023-11-24T02:35:21Z")
Your logic says that physical nuclear bombs are equivalent to computer code running in a data center, when clearly they’re not. Now, if you do went to read about nuclear bases and computer hackers then I recommends the book “The Cuckoo’s Egg”. Very old but interesting nevertheless. ---
**Author:** ![vegycslol](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.grin.mw/vegycslol/32/3340_2.png) [@vegycslol](https://forum.grin.mw/u/vegycslol)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2023, 3:14am UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/is-a-privacy-coin-even-good-for-the-world/10815/46 "2023-11-24T03:14:12Z")
> [@Grinyin](#): > > Your logic says that physical nuclear bombs are equivalent to computer code running in a data center, when clearly they’re not. What I’m saying is that there exists a “just good enough” point for weapons and also for privacy which when crossed brings more bad than good things (that’s my guess ofc). Let’s just agree to disagree. ---
**Author:** ![Luneth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e19b73/32.png) [@Luneth](https://forum.grin.mw/u/Luneth)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2023, 8:59am UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/is-a-privacy-coin-even-good-for-the-world/10815/47 "2023-11-24T08:59:05Z")
I totally agree with you, there is no such thing as absolutely secure privacy. ---
**Author:** ![markov](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.grin.mw/markov/32/3221_2.png) [@markov](https://forum.grin.mw/u/markov)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2023, 3:27pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/is-a-privacy-coin-even-good-for-the-world/10815/48 "2023-11-24T15:27:30Z")
But then why not use address? With an address, it is much easier to use. [Previous page](https://forum.grin.mw/t/is-a-privacy-coin-even-good-for-the-world/10815.md?page=2)