# Grin Has Failed Bye **URL:** \ **Category:** Uncategorized\ **Created:** [September 21, 2022, 3:12pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/grin-has-failed-bye/10036 "2022-09-21T15:12:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![AESOP](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f8ce5/32.png) [@AESOP](https://forum.grin.mw/u/AESOP)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2022, 3:12pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/grin-has-failed-bye/10036/1 "2022-09-21T15:12:16Z")
Grin is failed project, I’ve just completed selling all of my grin ☹ My bag is fucking empty, I can’t take it anymore. Grin will never see 10 billion dollars in daily trading volume by 2025 🤮🤮🤮🤮. That’s the only way this project stands chance at survival. Grin is failed experiment!! No one will ever use it. It’s so stupid just buy Bitcoin now. Don’t be an idiot, abandon this project now! ---
**Author:** ![trab](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f04885/32.png) [@trab](https://forum.grin.mw/u/trab)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2022, 3:52pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/grin-has-failed-bye/10036/3 "2022-09-21T15:52:37Z")
> [@AESOP](#): > > That’s the only way this project stands chance at survival. You underestimate the amount of free time that people have. > [@AESOP](#): > > It’s so stupid just buy Bitcoin now. I would wager that everyone here already owns bitcoin. ---
**Author:** ![trab](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f04885/32.png) [@trab](https://forum.grin.mw/u/trab)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2022, 3:59pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/grin-has-failed-bye/10036/5 "2022-09-21T15:59:03Z")
meh, I follow Lightning development closely. I support Grin because I believe in _the idea_. I don’t really care _how_ the idea is achieved. I would cheer on any project that seems to make steps towards it. ---
**Author:** ![coolwhip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/85f322/32.png) [@coolwhip](https://forum.grin.mw/u/coolwhip)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2022, 5:50pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/grin-has-failed-bye/10036/6 "2022-09-21T17:50:18Z")
> [@AESOP](#): > > My bag is fucking empty You had bags? You were doing it wrong… > [@AESOP](#): > > Grin is failed experiment I don’t think you understand the experiment. This never was and never will be a get rich quick scheme. Grin may succeed without making people wildly rich. > [@AESOP](#): > > Grin will never see 10 billion dollars in daily trading volume by 2025 Even if you’re right, who cares? Grin doesn’t need exchanges, day traders, or any form of gamblers to be successful. Grin just needs to be usable as a cash system, available to refugees of the old-world fiat systems. > [@AESOP](#): > > Don’t be an idiot You first ---
**Author:** ![tromp](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.grin.mw/tromp/32/22_2.png) [@tromp](https://forum.grin.mw/u/tromp)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2022, 10:16pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/grin-has-failed-bye/10036/7 "2022-09-21T22:16:52Z")
I predict that 10 years from now, people will still be posting here how Grin has failed. That may be one sign of long term success:-) ---
**Author:** ![nirg](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.grin.mw/nirg/32/5083_2.png) [@nirg](https://forum.grin.mw/u/nirg)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2022, 10:21pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/grin-has-failed-bye/10036/8 "2022-09-21T22:21:04Z")
> [@AESOP](#): > > Grin is failed project Explain why grin is a failed project… If you are a short term investor and expect to become a millionaire in a year… Sorry to tell you, you failed, not grin 🙃 ---
**Author:** ![AESOP](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f8ce5/32.png) [@AESOP](https://forum.grin.mw/u/AESOP)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2022, 1:30am UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/grin-has-failed-bye/10036/9 "2022-09-22T01:30:06Z")
> [@coolwhip](#): > > Even if you’re right, who cares? Grin doesn’t need exchanges, day traders, or any form of gamblers to be successful. Grin just needs to be usable as a cash system, available to refugees of the old-world fiat systems I’m 100% certain we aren’t seeing that volume ---
**Author:** ![AESOP](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f8ce5/32.png) [@AESOP](https://forum.grin.mw/u/AESOP)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2022, 1:37am UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/grin-has-failed-bye/10036/10 "2022-09-22T01:37:23Z")
Explain why grin is a failed project… If you are a short term investor and expect to become a millionaire in a year… Sorry to tell you, you failed, not grin 🙃 > **[Grin the failed Experiment 🧪](https://medium.com/@zmsgxb/grin-the-failed-experiment-fd8e7747bc6b)** > > The currency that almost was. The currency that almost became. Just sell grin where going to zero ! ---
**Author:** ![coolwhip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/85f322/32.png) [@coolwhip](https://forum.grin.mw/u/coolwhip)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2022, 2:19am UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/grin-has-failed-bye/10036/11 "2022-09-22T02:19:35Z")
Would love to see a grin haters hall of fame for just this reason ---
**Author:** ![nirg](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.grin.mw/nirg/32/5083_2.png) [@nirg](https://forum.grin.mw/u/nirg)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2022, 6:21am UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/grin-has-failed-bye/10036/12 "2022-09-22T06:21:48Z")
> Grin can only ever achieve 10 transaction per second. In the grand scheme of things, this is unscalable. This can not be fixed or changed. If gr,in can not scale at the transactional level, people will never use it as currency or store of value standard Using Mimblewimble protocol, the size of the blockchain remains small which makes it easy for anyone to run a full node to support or mine the network. Transaction size is small as well. > Interactive transactions don’t really make it easy for the average joe to adopt the cryptocurrency grin. Without normal users adopting the currency it will simply die out. The slatepack transactions don’t scale to mass adoption & it is just too difficult to learn. > **[Transactions - Grin Documentation](https://docs.grin.mw/about-grin/transactions/)** > > Grin Documentation > [@The (non-)existing problem with interactive transactions & UX - Rant](https://forum.grin.mw/t/the-non-existing-problem-with-interactive-transactions-ux-rant/8515): > > Dear all I would like to rant about the (non-)existing problem with interactive transactions. One of the most reoccurring discussion topics on this forum is the (un)-usability of Grin and complains about bad User Experience (UX). Basically, many people in the communithy complain that Grin is too hard to use. And the source of all evil/The Problem == interactivity (the need to be online to do transactions)! These discussions mostly continue complaining about the lack of usability of Grin, state… You are a new member @AESOP. grin docs and grin forum will give you the answers. > Grin currently on a good day has maybe 100 nodes online. This currency was ever going to scale to wide adoption. It would need Millions of nodes online, simultaneously, which is not achievable. Grin’s privacy is built on a mesh network, and it requires people to use the cryptocurrency to have true privacy. It’s been 1333 days and only 100 nodes online. Online nodes are much more. You probably talking about public nodes. > Markets will have a hard time at listing privacy coins. Most exchanges won’t list any of them for the honest fact they can’t. Indeed, if privacy coins get filed onto exchanges, it won’t be grin for the pure fact it’s just too private. It will be last to be registered if they really chose to list privacy coins. Coinswap design… Read [Mimblewimble CoinSwap proposal](https://forum.grin.mw/t/mimblewimble-coinswap-proposal/8322) ---
**Author:** ![Anynomous](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.grin.mw/anynomous/32/2928_2.png) [@Anynomous](https://forum.grin.mw/u/Anynomous)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2022, 9:38am UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/grin-has-failed-bye/10036/13 "2022-09-22T09:38:01Z")
> [@AESOP](#): > > Grin is failed project, I’ve just completed selling all of my grin ☹ > > My bag is fucking empty, I can’t take it anymore. Grin will never see 10 billion dollars in daily trading volume by 2025 🤮🤮🤮🤮. > > That’s the only way this project stands chance at survival. > > Grin is failed experiment!! No one will ever use it. It’s so stupid just buy Bitcoin now. > > Don’t be an idiot, abandon this project now! Nothing more amusing than a guy telling you a project is dead on a forum and specifically telling us to buy BTC. Take it in this analogy, did you ever bother to go to a graveyard to tell the buried they are dead? You taking the effort to create an account to tell us this shows that this project is very much alive. Just be honest, which of the following is your motivation: A) Shorting Grin/BTC pair, “please sell, I am going bankrupt since Grin outperforms BTC at the moment” B) “I want to hord up on Grin, please sell it to me at a discount.” C) “I was hired to create FUD, please buy into statements without arguments so I do not get fired” But hey, thanks for taking the effort to create an account and amuse us all. You are welcome to participate in the next Grin is dead meme contest. You can win some free Grinnies if your are entertaining enough 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Ghost3](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.grin.mw/ghost3/32/4899_2.png) [@Ghost3](https://forum.grin.mw/u/Ghost3)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2022, 11:46am UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/grin-has-failed-bye/10036/14 "2022-09-22T11:46:50Z")
You might think its a failed project, but I can tell you this, the guy on Tradeoger over the last 2-3 weeks who has been spending 1-2 BTC a day and pushing up the price does not think so. I wish he also thought it was a failed project, the guy is costing me 1000s of Grins as he keeps pushing the dam price up! Maybe you can talk to him! 😂😂😂 Oh, I hope you dumped on Tradeoger. 😬 ---
**Author:** ![AESOP](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f8ce5/32.png) [@AESOP](https://forum.grin.mw/u/AESOP)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2022, 2:10pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/grin-has-failed-bye/10036/15 "2022-09-22T14:10:39Z")
By 2025 grin will be trading below 500$ coin. Dude I’m trying to give you lifeline !! Sell this shit now it’s going lower!!! Idiot ---
**Author:** ![Anynomous](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.grin.mw/anynomous/32/2928_2.png) [@Anynomous](https://forum.grin.mw/u/Anynomous)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2022, 2:24pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/grin-has-failed-bye/10036/16 "2022-09-22T14:24:08Z")
So if Grin will trade below 500$ by 2025, why would I sell… That would be massive gains. I highly doubt Grin will go up that much FYI. If I had any fiat left I would buy more Grin and more BTC right now, unfortunately I already spend all I have shopping crypto this dip. ---
**Author:** ![nirg](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.grin.mw/nirg/32/5083_2.png) [@nirg](https://forum.grin.mw/u/nirg)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2022, 2:25pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/grin-has-failed-bye/10036/17 "2022-09-22T14:25:23Z")
> [@AESOP](#): > > Grin is failed project, I’ve just completed selling all of my grin I am so sad. I wish you send me your grins in 0 price. BTW I remember you from telegram… Always talking like that. You are my new meme… ---
**Author:** ![Ghost3](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.grin.mw/ghost3/32/4899_2.png) [@Ghost3](https://forum.grin.mw/u/Ghost3)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2022, 3:54pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/grin-has-failed-bye/10036/18 "2022-09-22T15:54:30Z")
Why BTC? Grin was built as Bitcoin 2.0. Most things they are trying to do on BTC, is done, being done on Grin. Its like buying a 2009 Iphone when you can have the latest model. ---
**Author:** ![AESOP](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f8ce5/32.png) [@AESOP](https://forum.grin.mw/u/AESOP)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2022, 4:07pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/grin-has-failed-bye/10036/19 "2022-09-22T16:07:04Z")
Just buy Bitcoin. Grin doesn’t have robust ecosystem. Never will. Bitcoin will be trading above 20,000$ coin by 2025 Grin needs 5-10Billion daily trading volume in US dollars by 2025 it won’t ever receive that! It’s DOA ---
**Author:** ![GriniumMemiosa](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.grin.mw/griniummemiosa/32/4883_2.png) [@GriniumMemiosa](https://forum.grin.mw/u/GriniumMemiosa)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2022, 6:44pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/grin-has-failed-bye/10036/20 "2022-09-22T18:44:41Z")
> [@AESOP](#): > > Grin is failed project, I’ve just completed selling all of my grin ![thumb3](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/uploads/grin/original/2X/5/5ce22ec804d5066017c210b8a7652df34764c358.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Doogevol](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Doogevol](https://forum.grin.mw/u/Doogevol)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2022, 9:19pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/grin-has-failed-bye/10036/21 "2022-09-22T21:19:21Z")
Jokelist: - ![](https://i.imgflip.com/6ucpob.jpg) - Hell low and buy buy AESOP - grin blockchain must be a little bit smaller now. Philosopher raptor: Is it good or bad? - in the year 2525 if grin is still alive … In the year 8510 … Or tear it down and start again - Whoa-oh-oh - ![](https://i.imgflip.com/6ud0r3.jpg) - ![](https://i.imgflip.com/6ud00r.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![natsu](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.grin.mw/natsu/32/6279_2.png) [@natsu](https://forum.grin.mw/u/natsu)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2022, 1:54am UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/grin-has-failed-bye/10036/22 "2022-09-23T01:54:17Z")
Perhaps you should work on your reading comprehension, it’s literally the third sentence on [the website](https://grin.mw/): > Designed for the decades to come, not just for tomorrow. [Next page](https://forum.grin.mw/t/grin-has-failed-bye/10036.md?page=2)