# Could grin 'borrow' UX elements from Beam?

**URL:** <https://forum.grin.mw/t/could-grin-borrow-ux-elements-from-beam/7887>\
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**Created:** [October 10, 2020, 2:18pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/could-grin-borrow-ux-elements-from-beam/7887 "2020-10-10T14:18:31Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 11\
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**Author:** ![david](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.grin.mw/david/32/660_2.png) [@david](https://forum.grin.mw/u/david)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2020, 1:41pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/could-grin-borrow-ux-elements-from-beam/7887/22 "2020-11-03T13:41:51Z")

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> [@siNix](#):
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> explain better why there is [grinplusplus.com](http://grinplusplus.com) in the wallet address, people just don’t understand that.

Explain it where? I appreciate your suggestions for renaming, but when it gets to the most crucial UX problems (3.4-3.7), you say little more than “This is confusing, make it less confusing.” I would like to know how you think I should do that.

As mentioned earlier, the problem with grin is not the lack of an easy-to-use GUI. The problem with Grin is its abundance of tx methods make it such that an easy-to-use GUI is not possible - at least, not until we finally standardize on slatepacks. In theory, that should happen as part of HF4. That would make it so there’s no need for [grinplusplus.com](http://grinplusplus.com) addresses, and no need for Receive files & finalize files.

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**Author:** ![siNix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@siNix](https://forum.grin.mw/u/siNix)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2020, 1:57pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/could-grin-borrow-ux-elements-from-beam/7887/23 "2020-11-03T13:57:09Z")

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@david i never mentioned that the Grin++ gui was bad at all. You suddenly mentioned grin++ in this topic.

You asked for improvements ( How can Grin++ be improved? ) So i am giving you a few possible improvement suggestions.

English is not my first language so i am trying my best to explain myself ( what i mean )in  
the best possible way.

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**Author:** ![Numecca](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/dc4da7/32.png) [@Numecca](https://forum.grin.mw/u/Numecca)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2020, 2:17pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/could-grin-borrow-ux-elements-from-beam/7887/24 "2020-11-03T14:17:17Z")

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[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/cr56uMIohC8/maxresdefault.jpg "Wizards 1977 HD") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cr56uMIohC8)

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**Author:** ![davidtavarez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3ab097/32.png) [@davidtavarez](https://forum.grin.mw/u/davidtavarez)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2020, 2:39pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/could-grin-borrow-ux-elements-from-beam/7887/25 "2020-11-03T14:39:06Z")

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I will post this link here for further citation [360° roundabout on Beam UX (part 1) | by Sasha Abramovich | BEAM-MW | Medium](https://medium.com/beam-mw/360-roundabout-on-beam-ux-part-1-past-d4eb34d835cb)

This is how you create a great UX/UI explained 🤙

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**Author:** ![grn](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.grin.mw/grn/32/3722_2.png) [@grn](https://forum.grin.mw/u/grn)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2020, 4:41pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/could-grin-borrow-ux-elements-from-beam/7887/26 "2020-11-03T16:41:06Z")

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> [@david](#):
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> The problem with Grin is its abundance of tx methods make it such that an easy-to-use GUI is not possible

I would say, focus on one of them in the UI and make the other ones available less prominently like “or copy message text to send manually” and “other methods”. Don’t overwhelm new users with too many choices, but allow advanced users to use the full spectrum.

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**Author:** ![Anynomous](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.grin.mw/anynomous/32/2928_2.png) [@Anynomous](https://forum.grin.mw/u/Anynomous)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 9:04am UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/could-grin-borrow-ux-elements-from-beam/7887/27 "2020-11-05T09:04:13Z")

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The trick is not letting people think about transfer methods at al. E.g. the QR codes as suggested by @JustAResearcher would make transferring very easy, it does not even matter if slate-packs are send via QR codes or if the QR code contains a slatepack adress to send via TOR. I would make sending via TOR default, Chinese users can select an option to send slatepacks directly via QR codes.

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**Author:** ![Spartakus](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.grin.mw/spartakus/32/3205_2.png) [@Spartakus](https://forum.grin.mw/u/Spartakus)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 10:07am UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/could-grin-borrow-ux-elements-from-beam/7887/28 "2020-11-05T10:07:32Z")

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QR codes is simple and universal…

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**Author:** ![grn](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.grin.mw/grn/32/3722_2.png) [@grn](https://forum.grin.mw/u/grn)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 11:28am UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/could-grin-borrow-ux-elements-from-beam/7887/29 "2020-11-05T11:28:57Z")

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If you have a camera

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**Author:** ![Anynomous](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.grin.mw/anynomous/32/2928_2.png) [@Anynomous](https://forum.grin.mw/u/Anynomous)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 1:50pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/could-grin-borrow-ux-elements-from-beam/7887/30 "2020-11-05T13:50:27Z")

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Hard to find a mobile phone without a camera nowedays.

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**Author:** ![grn](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.grin.mw/grn/32/3722_2.png) [@grn](https://forum.grin.mw/u/grn)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 3:25pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/could-grin-borrow-ux-elements-from-beam/7887/31 "2020-11-05T15:25:23Z")

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I would not say _hard_: [https://noncam.com/?v=3a52f3c22ed6](https://noncam.com/?v=3a52f3c22ed6)

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**Author:** ![davidtavarez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3ab097/32.png) [@davidtavarez](https://forum.grin.mw/u/davidtavarez)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 1:43pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/could-grin-borrow-ux-elements-from-beam/7887/32 "2020-11-06T13:43:50Z")

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I am open to any feedback for those who want to help: [Grin++ (mobile) - Progress update thread by @davidtavarez](https://forum.grin.mw/t/grin-mobile-progress-update-thread-by-davidtavarez/7894/16)

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