# Chat app with Grin built in **URL:** \ **Category:** Development and Technical Discussion\ **Created:** [January 22, 2021, 10:51am UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/chat-app-with-grin-built-in/8284 "2021-01-22T10:51:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Mokhtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Mokhtar](https://forum.grin.mw/u/Mokhtar)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2021, 10:51am UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/chat-app-with-grin-built-in/8284/1 "2021-01-22T10:51:51Z")
Hello grinners, i had an idea for quite some time now and after doing some research, i want to share it with you. Grin is an interactive protocol so it was obvious for me to think about adding grin to a chat app, where instead of exchanging slatepack or address we can directly send grins like an attached file or a picture. the idea is to have a profile chat app with your grin account pre-configured. i found some cool open source chat apps, but there is this **BRIAR** project that caught my attention. it’s Secure, [open source](https://code.briarproject.org/briar/briar), governed by a voluntary [board](https://briarproject.org/governance) and well [funded](https://briarproject.org/about-us/) Creating an account , is simple, you can choose any nickname and password. Your Briar account AND messages are stored securely on your device, not in the cloud. the most interesting part is how you add a contact, and there where the interactivity comes in. to add someone you need to send him your briar:// link and vice versa. Briar uses direct, encrypted connections between users via tor. All communication between devices is encrypted end-to-end. what if we audit this project, fork the code and add grin to it ? be able to create an account, pre-configure it with a slatepack address , instead of the briar:// address we can use slatepack address to communicate over the app but also transact securely ? ---
**Author:** ![Paouky](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.grin.mw/paouky/32/513_2.png) [@Paouky](https://forum.grin.mw/u/Paouky)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2021, 1:36pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/chat-app-with-grin-built-in/8284/2 "2021-01-22T13:36:17Z")
It’s unlikely to gain traction - we had a working (I believe) Keybase plugin for some time and i don’t think it saw any use. Now that we have Slatepack messages, transacting securely on any chat platform is easily possibly, so i don’t see why a dedicated one is warranted and will be used. But it’s a cool concept. ---
**Author:** ![Anynomous](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.grin.mw/anynomous/32/2928_2.png) [@Anynomous](https://forum.grin.mw/u/Anynomous)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2021, 2:35pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/chat-app-with-grin-built-in/8284/3 "2021-01-22T14:35:18Z")
@mokhtar Or maybe we just need to convince the guys from Signal, apparently the founder Moxie Marlinspike, is enthusiastic about crypto and working on a new digital currency. " Moxie Marlinspike, is working on a new digital currency that is planning to offer simple, fast and cheap transactions for all users. The digital currency is called [MobileCoin](https://www.mobilecoin.com/), is based on the open-source Stellar Consensus Protocols platform, the same platform that powers the [Stellar](https://www.stellar.org/lumens/) protocol. In a recent news article by [Wired](https://www.wired.com/story/mobilecoin-cryptocurrency/) " ---
**Author:** ![GrinDarkNetBank](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.grin.mw/grindarknetbank/32/3236_2.png) [@GrinDarkNetBank](https://forum.grin.mw/u/GrinDarkNetBank)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2021, 5:49pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/chat-app-with-grin-built-in/8284/4 "2021-01-22T17:49:31Z")
use signal Ilon Mask says ---
**Author:** ![Mokhtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Mokhtar](https://forum.grin.mw/u/Mokhtar)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2021, 8:06am UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/chat-app-with-grin-built-in/8284/5 "2021-01-23T08:06:35Z")
> [@Paouky](#): > > But it’s a cool concept. Yeah it’s more of a concept that can raise awareness of grin. we will not see heavy use of it for sure but this can be a strength of the grin ecosystem. > [@Anynomous](#): > > convince the guys from Signal i think that convince them while sending a real POC is better than just shill them a coin. if we can come up with a demo, a nice presentation and a video we can use it as a pitch. the aim of the project is not to launch a new chat app but raise awareness and pitch guys who might be interested. privacy is a real concern and combine effort to build something bigger might be a good next step , worth to try . this can even be a subject to a request funding if anyone is interested. POC (proof of concept) are important too i think