# C33 requirements for GPU memory? **URL:** \ **Category:** Mining\ **Created:** [June 21, 2020, 1:50pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/c33-requirements-for-gpu-memory/7466 "2020-06-21T13:50:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![GrinDarkNetBank](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.grin.mw/grindarknetbank/32/3236_2.png) [@GrinDarkNetBank](https://forum.grin.mw/u/GrinDarkNetBank)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2020, 4:34pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/c33-requirements-for-gpu-memory/7466/22 "2020-06-22T16:34:30Z")
For Grin is good to organize anti-pool mining. According to 1processor 1 voice. 1computer with Grin node with staking some Grin with GPU hashing power only they will able validate transaction 1transaction per 1hour and no more. Some combined anti pool mining. ---
**Author:** ![tromp](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.grin.mw/tromp/32/22_2.png) [@tromp](https://forum.grin.mw/u/tromp)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2020, 6:20pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/c33-requirements-for-gpu-memory/7466/23 "2020-06-22T18:20:57Z")
It’s Tom Elvis Jedusor. And he never expressed any opinion on ASICs. ---
**Author:** ![GrinDarkNetBank](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.grin.mw/grindarknetbank/32/3236_2.png) [@GrinDarkNetBank](https://forum.grin.mw/u/GrinDarkNetBank)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2020, 6:51pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/c33-requirements-for-gpu-memory/7466/24 "2020-06-22T18:51:52Z")
Tom wrote about Bitcoin and try to make it better like dreaming every cryptopunks in the world. 1processor - 1voice. Not 1 asic 1 voice. That you wrote 1 asic 1voice. It is your fake, your false statment. Asic it is not Processor . Tom wrote against banksters and corporation: Add to this that these transactions are cryptographically atomic, it is clear what outputs go into every transaction and what emerges. The “transaction graph” resulting reveals a lot of information and is subjected to analysis by many companies whose business model is to monitor and control the lower classes. This makes it very non-private and even dangerous for people to use. ```auto ``` ---
**Author:** ![johndavies24](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.grin.mw/johndavies24/32/1828_2.png) [@johndavies24](https://forum.grin.mw/u/johndavies24)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2020, 8:51pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/c33-requirements-for-gpu-memory/7466/25 "2020-06-22T20:51:29Z")
Are you aware there are people out there with more than one GPU (or CPU)? Then that one person has as many voices as they are willing to pay for… RandomX is more like one botnet, 1000 voices, one server farm, 1000 voices. You can reduce pool power by supporting Stratum V2 or BetterHash or similar technologies. Also, certain DAG technologies do this as well. But your GPU/CPU can hop to whatever chain you want. Your ASIC is a commitment to the chain. ---
**Author:** ![Neo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.grin.mw/neo/32/3365_2.png) [@Neo](https://forum.grin.mw/u/Neo)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2020, 11:35pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/c33-requirements-for-gpu-memory/7466/26 "2020-06-22T23:35:33Z")
Grin set out to be ASIC Friendly before launch. Large GPU farms/ Botnets/ FPGA’s/ Secret ASICs dominant all _ASIC resistant_ coins. Decentralization by being _ASIC resistant_ is an illusion- Sure, there might be more individual workers, however, a large portal of a network is still dominated by a few. An attacker can also more easily obtain 51% of the hashrate by renting GPU’s from other competing networks that have no dependence on Grin. ASICs are inevitable and continuously forking away from them is a game of cat and mouse. Continuous forks also make a currency less immutable ( less valuable). ---
**Author:** ![GrinDarkNetBank](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.grin.mw/grindarknetbank/32/3236_2.png) [@GrinDarkNetBank](https://forum.grin.mw/u/GrinDarkNetBank)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2020, 4:54am UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/c33-requirements-for-gpu-memory/7466/27 "2020-06-23T04:54:38Z")
You team mislead the people and mislead them from the cryptopunk ideals. 1. 1voice - 1processor, you change to 1asic - 1voice. But it not. 2. RandomX can use Botnet. But RandomX not able use botnet because RandomX needs many memory resources. And this impossible to use in secret for computer users. Read statistics about botnet they not survived. 3.DAG it is about only ETHhash algo but not RandomX it will work in cookoo circle. Grin can use processor algo RandomX instead of asic friendly Blake2s. Grin community have to vote on this. But Grin not have community. Grin have governance in services of corporations and they do what they want. ---
**Author:** ![oryhp](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.grin.mw/oryhp/32/2923_2.png) [@oryhp](https://forum.grin.mw/u/oryhp)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2020, 9:28am UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/c33-requirements-for-gpu-memory/7466/28 "2020-06-23T09:28:22Z")
Grin community already decided on this years ago - along with Ignotus. I don’t see any reason to change it. ---
**Author:** ![GrinDarkNetBank](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.grin.mw/grindarknetbank/32/3236_2.png) [@GrinDarkNetBank](https://forum.grin.mw/u/GrinDarkNetBank)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2020, 9:40am UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/c33-requirements-for-gpu-memory/7466/29 "2020-06-23T09:40:22Z")
It is not truth. Not any vote was organized. Community cryptopunks never voted on asics and never will do. Asic machine it is equal Federal Reserve printing money machine. ---
**Author:** ![oryhp](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.grin.mw/oryhp/32/2923_2.png) [@oryhp](https://forum.grin.mw/u/oryhp)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2020, 9:42am UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/c33-requirements-for-gpu-memory/7466/30 "2020-06-23T09:42:37Z")
It is absolutely not. Miners have no say in the monetary policy, they wouldn’t be able to change it even if they owned 100% of the ASICs ---
**Author:** ![Kurt](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.grin.mw/kurt/32/3361_2.png) [@Kurt](https://forum.grin.mw/u/Kurt)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2020, 9:43am UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/c33-requirements-for-gpu-memory/7466/31 "2020-06-23T09:43:02Z")
“Asic machine it is equal Federal Reserve printing money machine” Yes when there are GPUs also in the network, it is true. That’s why we do ASICs friendlyness. And in a few decades hopefully it will be a cheap commodity with equal performances across vendors. A bit like GPUs today ---
**Author:** ![GrinDarkNetBank](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.grin.mw/grindarknetbank/32/3236_2.png) [@GrinDarkNetBank](https://forum.grin.mw/u/GrinDarkNetBank)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2020, 12:32pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/c33-requirements-for-gpu-memory/7466/32 "2020-06-23T12:32:49Z")
It is absolutly yes - corporations control asics, FED controll corporations. Likewise corporations controll you. Well continue to serve them you slaves never will be able to set free some one. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/aRUxfxp9dJ8/hqdefault.jpg "DIY: Disabling Intel ME 'Backdoor' on your Computer") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRUxfxp9dJ8) ---
**Author:** ![insider](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.grin.mw/insider/32/4360_2.png) [@insider](https://forum.grin.mw/u/insider)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2020, 2:08pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/c33-requirements-for-gpu-memory/7466/33 "2020-06-23T14:08:05Z")
Cryptocurrencies are algorithmic, they do what is embedded in the code, but communities are social. In any community, situations arise that carry the risk of a split over ANY problem, even trivial. The process of solving the problem can cause disastrous disagreements. By introducing “bad actors” into the community, toxicity, hostility, trolling, and the like can be cultivated. These are extremely cheap attacks. ---
**Author:** ![GrinDarkNetBank](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.grin.mw/grindarknetbank/32/3236_2.png) [@GrinDarkNetBank](https://forum.grin.mw/u/GrinDarkNetBank)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2020, 6:54pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/c33-requirements-for-gpu-memory/7466/34 "2020-06-23T18:54:44Z")
CryptoAG some people were tried. Like your team dreaming to made crypto machines. > **[The CIA secretly bought a company that sold encryption devices across the...](https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/world/national-security/cia-crypto-encryption-machines-espionage/)** > > U.S. and German intelligence agencies partnered on a scheme to dupe dozens of nations into buying rigged encryption systems — taking their money and stealing their secrets. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/5AkJ03VYBYY/maxresdefault.jpg "Твой процессор следит за тобой ▲ Intel Management Engine") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AkJ03VYBYY) ---
**Author:** ![Neo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.grin.mw/neo/32/3365_2.png) [@Neo](https://forum.grin.mw/u/Neo)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2020, 11:39pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/c33-requirements-for-gpu-memory/7466/35 "2020-06-23T23:39:30Z")
So corporations like Nvidia/ AMD & Intel don’t control GPU/CPUs? ---
**Author:** ![Elephantul](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.grin.mw/elephantul/32/3910_2.png) [@Elephantul](https://forum.grin.mw/u/Elephantul)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2020, 5:27am UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/c33-requirements-for-gpu-memory/7466/36 "2020-06-24T05:27:01Z")
Of course they do > **[What You Need To Know About The Intel Management Engine](https://hackaday.com/2017/12/11/what-you-need-to-know-about-the-intel-management-engine/)** > > Over the last decade, Intel has been including a tiny little microcontroller inside their CPUs. This microcontroller is connected to everything, and can shuttle data between your hard drive and you… ---
**Author:** ![GrinDarkNetBank](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.grin.mw/grindarknetbank/32/3236_2.png) [@GrinDarkNetBank](https://forum.grin.mw/u/GrinDarkNetBank)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2020, 6:36am UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/c33-requirements-for-gpu-memory/7466/37 "2020-06-24T06:36:17Z")
We deactivate it [https://puri.sm](https://puri.sm) Every one is able to deactivate according to instruction: But backdoor in asics unable to deactivate it is impossible. S9 Bitman have backdoor. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/5HmuP4IA014/maxresdefault.jpg "Как отключить Intel Management Engine ▲") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HmuP4IA014) > **[2027 (1/4)](https://teletype.in/@kitoboy/r1C1koTuS)** > > Привет. ---
**Author:** ![GrinDarkNetBank](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.grin.mw/grindarknetbank/32/3236_2.png) [@GrinDarkNetBank](https://forum.grin.mw/u/GrinDarkNetBank)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2020, 6:52pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/c33-requirements-for-gpu-memory/7466/38 "2020-06-24T18:52:35Z")
I just plaice it here. Bitcoin sha-256 have tapdoor, blake2s also. Grin tapdored by blake2s and you are false cryptopunks you imitate only cryptopunks you are the servants of the banksters. [https://www.researchgate.net/publication/221327188\_A\_Simple\_Public-Key\_Cryptosystem\_with\_a\_Double\_Trapdoor\_Decryption\_Mechanism\_and\_Its\_Applications](https://www.researchgate.net/publication/221327188_A_Simple_Public-Key_Cryptosystem_with_a_Double_Trapdoor_Decryption_Mechanism_and_Its_Applications) [https://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/classes/6.805/articles/money/nsamint/nsamint.htm](https://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/classes/6.805/articles/money/nsamint/nsamint.htm) > **[Исходный\_код(("Базис"), (\_1));](https://teletype.in/@kitoboy/HkL5uQu5H)** > > Привет, дорогой читатель. ---
**Author:** ![tromp](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.grin.mw/tromp/32/22_2.png) [@tromp](https://forum.grin.mw/u/tromp)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2020, 8:14pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/c33-requirements-for-gpu-memory/7466/39 "2020-06-24T20:14:36Z")
Ok, everybody; let’s stop feeding the troll… ---
**Author:** ![bluimes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d26b3c/32.png) [@bluimes](https://forum.grin.mw/u/bluimes)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2020, 8:17pm UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/c33-requirements-for-gpu-memory/7466/40 "2020-06-24T20:17:12Z")
You sound so disturbed sorry. I tried to follow your message but the only thing I get out of it is you are desperate to proof you point to anyone who is paying attention. Keep making assumptions on what people intended which they never actually spoke about those things in the first place… Also keep on bashing asic, which is currently the only way to mine the only coin that truly matters. If asics are fairly distributed there is no reason to be against it. ---
**Author:** ![GrinDarkNetBank](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.grin.mw/grindarknetbank/32/3236_2.png) [@GrinDarkNetBank](https://forum.grin.mw/u/GrinDarkNetBank)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2020, 11:52am UTC](https://forum.grin.mw/t/c33-requirements-for-gpu-memory/7466/42 "2020-06-25T11:52:36Z")
Grin have master key in every block 100bite master key in front of every block. [https://web.archive.org/web/20010408201122/http://e4m.net/pol.html](https://web.archive.org/web/20010408201122/http://e4m.net/pol.html) [Previous page](https://forum.grin.mw/t/c33-requirements-for-gpu-memory/7466.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forum.grin.mw/t/c33-requirements-for-gpu-memory/7466.md?page=3)